Daniel is out this week… which means Ashley Bishop and Ashlee Bishop have taken over the podcast.

That’s right—no supervision.

In this episode of Keep it Humane: The Podcast, the Ashleys talk about something that isn’t always easy to discuss in animal welfare: compassion fatigue. They dive into the emotional weight of the job, the stress that comes with working in animal control and shelters, and why even the most dedicated professionals sometimes feel completely drained.

Along the way they share real experiences from the field, talk about how this work affects people behind the scenes, and discuss resources and strategies that can help professionals take care of themselves while continuing to care for animals.

It’s honest, it’s real… and with Daniel gone, it might even be a little less controlled than usual.