When the 'Self' is your only god, you have no anchor when the storm hits. And as dads, if we don't know how to spot the counterfeit, we can’t protect our kids from it. We end up raising children who are spiritually adrift because we traded the Rock of Ages for a handful of crystals and 'positive energy. I’ve brought a guest who will help Dads spot the counterfeits, protect their family and connect to the ultimate source of power and success.

Jerold Limongelli didn't just study the New Age; he lived it. He climbed that ladder until he realized it was leaning against a hollow wall. Now, he’s dedicated his life to helping fathers dismantle the deception and lead their families back to the only Truth that actually holds weight: Jesus Christ.

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Jonathan Guerrero

If I told you that there was a spiritual movement trying to take over your home, you'd probably look for a guy in a robe or a cult leader on the news. But the most dangerous deception, the most dangerous deceptions don't arrive with a warning label.

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Jonathan Guerrero

They arrive as self-help, wellness, and mindfulness. In 2026, New Age philosophy has been replaced for the modern dad. it's in It's in the manifesting techniques of your favorite business inlur and influencer.

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Jonathan Guerrero

It's in the follow your heart messaging in your kids cartoons. It tells you that you are the center of the universe, that your truth is the only truth, and that you can vibrate your way into a better life.

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Jonathan Guerrero

It sounds empowering. It feels like good vibes. but it's a spiritual Trojan horse. When the self is in your own when self is your only God, you have no anchor when the storm hits. And as dads, if we don't know how to spot the counterfeit, we can't protect our kids from it.

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Jonathan Guerrero

We end up raising children who are spiritually adrift because we traded the Rock of Ages for a handful of crystals and positive energy. I brought a guest who will help dads spot the counterfeits, protect their family, and connect to the ultimate source of power and success. And he will join us in just a moment. So don't go anywhere.

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Jonathan Guerrero

Greetings, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me and my co-host and son, Isaac. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Poderic Challenge. Yes, Isaac is back.

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Joyful Jerold

you

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Jonathan Guerrero

This episode is called The Counterfeit Covenant. Today, we are joined by Gerald Limongeli. Gerald didn't just study the New Age. He lived it. He climbed that ladder until he realized it was leaning against the hollow wall.

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Jonathan Guerrero

Now he's dedicated his life to helping fathers dismantle the deception and lead their families back to the only truth that actually holds weight, Jesus Christ.

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Jonathan Guerrero

Gerald, welcome to the Fatherhood Challenge.

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Joyful Jerold

Hey, thanks so much for having me. What an honor and a blessing to be here. I'm super grateful.

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Jonathan Guerrero

Gerald, I know you have a powerful testimony to share, so I'm going to give you some space for you to share that now.

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Joyful Jerold

Amen. Amen. Thank you so much. Yeah. So, you know, I, I didn't really grow up in a household where we had, um, any sort of faith background or any sort of, sorry, can you hear me still?

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Jonathan Guerrero

Sorry. Sorry, that was you.

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Jonathan Guerrero

Yeah, I can hear you. You're doing fine.

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Joyful Jerold

Okay, sorry. Yeah, so I grew up in a household where we didn't really have any background in faith or religion. i mean, we're we're Italian, so there was Catholicism, but it was really more about just going through the motions of, you know, you're baptized as a little kid, you get your confirmation, your communion, and then you move on. So I never really understood the Bible or nor did I ever really even read it. And as I grew up, um I was very attracted to the entertainment industry and that false sense of fame or what I would call just being included in something or acknowledgement. Since I grew up in an environment where there was a lot of rejection.

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Joyful Jerold

Um, I did spend, and when I came out of college, I jumped into the entertainment industry and I spent 10 years there working in New York, l LA to Las Vegas. I started as a club promoter. Then I moved my way up, um, all the way to a creative director and a celebrity wrangler, which really means I catered to all the celebrities and kind of entertain them and did whatever they needed to. But from the outside, my life looked very glamorous, um, very desired,

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Joyful Jerold

And i lived in some of the biggest cities and hung out with the most famous people. So from the outside, people would say I was winning. But throughout that 10-year period, you know the wound of not enough or ah the self-hate or not really loving myself really existed deep on the inside. And that God-sized hole was just getting bigger and bigger.

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Joyful Jerold

During that time, I did start to dabble in light things of the new age, which I would call, which is your basic, you know, meditation, going to see a palm reader, little bit of tarot cards and maybe some crystals. And I would say that that's really like the introduction to danger. And it really is like what I call the rookie level. So people who are like doing those things, they they think it's very, um,

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Joyful Jerold

that there's not a lot of like depth to it or like, what's the danger, you know, just get your cards read or just get your palm. Like it's like an innocent thing, but it really is the beginning of opening up demonic doors and and creating covenants and false altars with these deities and gods and principalities of darkness that you don't know that you're giving legal territory and legal ground into your life.

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Joyful Jerold

um And that started there. And then I moved into the um ad tech industry when I decided that at a certain age, it was getting a little bit tiresome to be in the in the entertainment space, being out every night.

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Jonathan Guerrero

from the Brownsroom.

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Jonathan Guerrero

um mean comment

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Joyful Jerold

Also, you know, when I look back at that too, a lot of covenants were created inside those nightclubs, all nightclubs. and and party places are very close to what a satanic temple would be. There's rituals, there's music, there's drinking of spirits, there's idolatry, there's sexual immorality. It's really a place that if you're a believer and you're listening to this, you should not be going there, should not be dabbling in any of this because those are door openers as well. And I spent 10 years there.

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Joyful Jerold

So once I got into the ad tech industry, and That's where I would say the the altar of sexual um immorality really, really increased itself. I started making the most money I've ever made. And I would spend all my time traveling the world. And I was an international businessman. And I never really wanted a relationship. So women became very transactional to me. um I spent a lot of time in doing one night stands or just logically putting it in my mind that um what's the difference between going on a date and spending money with someone um and versus just kind of paying your way into having sexual relations. So the doors were opened up in sexual idolatry and and um a lot of ah mischievous behavior, which will also eat away at your integrity as a man, your honor, um and it also tears down your self-image because it's really out of God's design.

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Joyful Jerold

Now, in that time of having a lot of money and wealth, I met a lot of ah people that were exploring New Age, and it started to open up my mind.

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Joyful Jerold

so As I spent about four years in that industry, I decided at some point that I really wanted to go deeper on my exploration. Now I took time off, um, earlier in around 2000, I would say 19 and I decided to hike the Appalachian trail now in, and building up to that, uh, hiking from Georgia to Maine. um I spent about a year up in the mountains in Mount Charleston, which is about 45 minutes outside of Las Vegas. I had no internet, no TV. I lived in a log cabin for an entire year. People would say like, that sounds crazy, but I needed some peace based on all the fast-paced lifestyle that I was living.

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Joyful Jerold

In that time period, this is where the door got fully opened because I was introduced to kundalini yoga. Kundalini yoga, if you're not aware, is when you wear all white, you wear a turban,

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Joyful Jerold

And you do a lot of ritualistic behaviors, Kriyas and mantras. They have you up very early in the morning. you have to eat a certain way, do a certain thing. They want you to change your name, which is an identity change away from how in the Bible, God gave the disciples or Jesus gave the disciples a name. These people want to give you a name. They want to create a false covenant with you. It's all telltale signs of an occultic behavior. um They also wrap your head in a turban. You start saying their Sanskrit language, things like satnam when you see people. And also they believe that there's a coiled up snake

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Joyful Jerold

energy at the bottom of your chakra which is in your sexual organs and that it needs to climb up your spine until it pops out of your head spiritually and this is what they call a kundalini awakening now i did kundalini probably every day for 365 days i was super involved i got sucked into the culture because i really wanted to be a part of something and they were very loving and they were very inviting, just like it says, you know the devil disguises himself as an angel of light. So these people appear as good, as welcoming, right? They don't show up with a pitch pitchfork and horns to deter you away from getting stirred in the wrong direction. Now, as I got into Kundalini Yoga, someone else reached out to me who was a shaman.

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Joyful Jerold

He invited me to go do ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is an indigenous plant that comes out of the Peruvian culture in the Amazon jungle. It is one of the strongest psychedelics that you could do. And they say that if I was to do this, I would be able to jump into a different realm and that the plant medicine would heal me and also show me aspects of my life to help me ascend to a higher level.

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Joyful Jerold

I went on this ayahuasca journey that opened up my eyes to wanting to do more things. I then dabbled into combo, um, which is a frog venom you burn into your body.

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Jonathan Guerrero

And

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Joyful Jerold

Um, I did, uh, what Shuma, which is the cactus plant, um, peyote, um, all kinds of really intensified psychedelics, which are massive door openers to the demonic portals.

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Joyful Jerold

Now in this time period, I did see the supernatural. Um, which when I look back at it's really interesting to see how God will plant you in certain areas, but he'll also protect you when his hand is on your life. Now, by the grace of God, i never had any you know close calls where my life was at threat, but I did enter illegally into the supernatural and I did create false covenants with false idols and demonic entities.

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Joyful Jerold

Now, during that time of exploration, I decided to go on what I would call Eat, Pray, Love for Dudes, my man tears journey. I decided to take off, go to Bali for two months. I went to Bali. I got certified as a yoga teacher.

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Joyful Jerold

I met witches, warlocks, gurus, shamans, astrologers, everyone to try to help me understand the inevitable quest of how do you love yourself? um From there, i went to India. I spent a month in New Delhi. I also did Vipassana meditation, whereas you meditate 100 hours, 10 hours a day. You can't make eye contact. You live in like a jail cell by yourself. You have to stare at the ground. You can't speak or talk. for a hundred hours.

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Joyful Jerold

Absolutely crazy when you think about the level of torture you have to go to to experience what God will give you just by shouting out his name and coming into an agreement with the truth. But I was on a journey, journey of self-enlightenment, journey of finding myself, journey of trying to understand the great mysteries of the universe. I also went to Varanasi, which is probably the most demonic place you could go to on planet Earth. It's along the Ganges River. It's the oldest city in the world. And that is where all the sadhus, the holy men, and the aghori, which are yogis that dress in all black, um they do very, very weird rituals, um drink their own urine, eat the dead bodies of the people that are being burnt um along the Ganges River when they do the... um

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Joyful Jerold

post-death sacrifices where they burn the bodies for Shiva. These people would go steal the bodies, eat them. um I met with these people, the Aghori, to try to understand the deeper mysteries of the universe.

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Joyful Jerold

um And then from there, I went actually to the Amazon jungle, spent about a month living in there, studied with Shapibo shamans, did a lot of ayahuasca um until the point of like just a breaking point of just too much. um At that point, I went home. um I was living in New York for a little bit.

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Joyful Jerold

um From there, it brought me back to California. i was living in Topanga, California. Again, just always seeming to land on my feet or have these opportunities that people would really just want. I found like a very beautiful home in Topanga, which is a very hard place to live. It's in between Santa Monica and Malibu up in the mountains. my I lived on a mountaintop. My only neighbor was the singer Seal who was married to Heidi Klum. we became friends. um Again, living this life like, wow, you're so blessed, Gerald.

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Joyful Jerold

um From there, i met a girl ah who was living up in Lake Arrowhead. We started dating. She was a light worker. And she basically was into witchcraft. um She did a lot of full moon rituals, a lot of ceremonies and the lifestyle I was living in the lifestyle she was living. We thought, what a divine connection and interception to you know align us with the universe and all the things that life had for us.

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Joyful Jerold

That relationship brought me to Austin, Texas. After about a year, ah maybe almost a year and a half of dating her. The relationship didn't work out. It was extremely toxic because you're just living in a demonic realm when you're both of you are practicing all of these new age rituals and behaviors with trauma and all unhealed aspects of your life. It is just a breeding ground for chaos. And that's what I was living in absolute chaos in my home.

00:14:29.28

Joyful Jerold

Outside external validation, I'm a 10 out 10, buying Maseratis, running my coaching business, making well over multiple six figures a month. um Everything looks great.

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Joyful Jerold

Internally, I'm being destroyed. Spiritually dead. um From there, when we broke up, I decided to move outside of Austin to a small town called Dripping Springs.

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Joyful Jerold

Um, everything was going well again, like, you know, finding my own place. Everyone's saying, oh, you're doing so great after the breakup, but inside hurting, uh, confused, not knowing who I am, no identity, right? Searching, searching, searching.

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Joyful Jerold

One day I decided to go on a hike. um There's a hiking trail behind my house in the woods going on ah on a hike. I'm out walking in the woods. I'm listening to motivational speaking, Tony Robbins, you know all of the ah the gurus of the new age trying to pump myself up for the day where I'm going to manifest whatever I want and I'm the ruler of my own world.

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Joyful Jerold

um God had a different plan. So I was listening to it on YouTube. All of a sudden the YouTube channel changes. And I don't understand the line, like the, the verbiage that I'm listening to is like, sounds like old English or like a Beowulf tonality. I open up my phone. I look, it says Jesus Christ sermon on the Mount. It's like a compilation. So I was like, Oh, Jesus is cool. He's one of the ascended masters. He's a sage. Um, I'll check it out.

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Joyful Jerold

And I'm listening as I'm walking, but I'm not really paying attention. And all of a sudden I hear a verse that says, um be leery of false prophets for the show up in sheep's clothing, but underneath their ravenous wolves for, you know, a good tree by the fruit of bears for an evil tree can only bear thorns and thistles.

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Joyful Jerold

It stops me in my track. And I don't know what the Holy Ghost is. So I'm going to say this from a place of now for the listeners to understand, but I i hear or feel the presence of the Holy Ghost.

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Joyful Jerold

And it speaks to me and says, you know, you spent all this time searching the world and you've and you've met everyone and searched everyone, but why not Jesus?

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Joyful Jerold

And it posed a very interesting question. And in my mind, I'm like, yeah, that's interesting. Why why not? At that time, the Holy Ghost illuminates a path in the woods and says, go this way. And I go this way and I follow this trail and I come out and I'm standing at like a small river in the middle of a field.

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Joyful Jerold

Now at that time, I hear the voice of God, not audible, but in my spirit. And the voice of God says to me, everything that you're looking for is with me. Come walk with me.

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Joyful Jerold

And Just for context, I've never read the Bible. I've never opened the Bible. I've never even felt the paper. And out of my mouth, I say, by divine revelation, I say, I believe in Jesus Christ, the King of kings, the Lord of lords, the one and only truth in the way, which is revelation.

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Joyful Jerold

And then I drop to my knees, like just can't stand anymore, drop to my knees, which again is prophetic because in the word of God, it says all men will bow before me, whether you do it now or at the time of your death.

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Joyful Jerold

And i begin to weep and cry and I call out to my Father in Heaven and I say, Lord, remove these demons from my body that have held me captive. Again, why would i refer to what's inside me as demons? Because the Holy Ghost is giving me spiritual revelation. And I could feel the presence of the demonic presence being pulled from my body.

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Joyful Jerold

Now, in that moment, I say to myself, only one or two things could be happening. One, I've done way too many psychedelics and they're going straight jacket me after this. Or two, I am having a physical manifestation of the one true living God and his name is Jesus.

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Joyful Jerold

Now, in that moment, the hand of God touched me. And in that moment, I was instantaneously a believer. There was no other thing that could ever deter my mind from knowing that Jesus is Lord because the hand of God physically touched me.

00:18:31.45

Joyful Jerold

I stood up. And I wiped off my tears and I began to walk home. And as I got home, my journey with Christ was like out of a cannon because he started working with me immediately.

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Joyful Jerold

There was no period of that. went Well, I wonder what happened. Let me go to church. Let me talk to a pastor. No, it was immediately. I'm revealing myself to you in all my glory. As I opened up my door to my apartment, almost 20 plus years of treasures that I accumulated on my journey, right? Of all this world travel and mystics and holy, the Lord, the Holy Ghost started highlighting every single thing to me, telling me this is demonic. This is a false altar. This is witchcraft. This is Santa Maria. This is a hex. This is a curse. And I just started tearing everything down, literally tearing down altars. Another prophetic moment.

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Joyful Jerold

Seven garbage bags later, I'm sitting in my apartment. It looks like a barren wasteland. I'm absolutely dumbfounded. What is going on? I have this conviction that everything that I was doing was absolutely false, but I have no idea where I'm going. And the only thing that's anchoring me is that there is a God and his name is Jesus.

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Joyful Jerold

And from that moment, My whole life radically changed. The next day I got up, I had a coaching program. I had men in that coaching program. When I opened up to Coach Deb and I looked at the course materials, I immediately got conviction from the Holy Ghost saying, you can't teach us. This is all false.

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Joyful Jerold

You're leading God's people astray. I shut my coaching business down. All the money I was making, gone. Every resource that I had given, that was given to me from the demonic, taken away.

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Joyful Jerold

The Lord had to refine me. He had to break me down and rebuild me up in his image, not in the image of the world. And that sanctification period took a long time.

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Joyful Jerold

I would say almost three plus years. In that time period, the Lord had sent me home from Austin, Texas to New York. I had to sell everything I ever earned. I was selling surfboards, snowboards, Ironman bikes, clothes, anything to make it by because my income was gone.

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Joyful Jerold

I went from being almost a seven-figure earner to I don't even know if I have enough money for gas. my identity was being wiped and a new identity was being built and that period of time ah it was not easy i don't anyone listening that's saying you get saved and then your life is just peaches it's not true um it's the best thing ever happening but there is a period of sanctification um When the Lord told me to go home to New York, that was a hard decision because home for me was not a place of comfort.

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Joyful Jerold

My mom was a drinker for 30 plus years. My family comes from a long family of divorces um and home was scary. But I obeyed what God asked me to do. And I drove my car from Austin, Texas, all the way home to New York, not knowing what was going to happen.

00:21:32.63

Joyful Jerold

And in that time period, that year of being home, it was probably one of the greatest years of my life. um I prayed for my mother every night in my room. i i learned how to intervene in the supernatural. So I came against the spirit of alcoholism.

00:21:44.78

Joyful Jerold

i i tore down demonic altars. And one day my mom came downstairs after about 30 something years of drinking and said, I don't know why, but I can never drink again.

00:21:50.98

Jonathan Guerrero

Thank you.

00:21:53.24

Joyful Jerold

Praise God. And my mom hasn't drank for four plus years. So the Lord gave my mom a life, a life to live. My sister was living at home at the time. She was not saved.

00:22:06.17

Joyful Jerold

And I would speak about Jesus all the time and it would irritate her. A year later, my sister came up to me and said, listen, I don't know about this Jesus guy, but you're not the same person.

00:22:16.57

Joyful Jerold

And if he could change you, i want him to change me. My sister gave her life to Christ, got baptized, and I was there to witness it. Praise God. At that time, i met someone randomly at a park when I was worshiping God, and they prophesied to me and told me to go to a specific church.

00:22:34.42

Joyful Jerold

I went to that church, and within a couple of months, I met a woman there. The Lord gave me a word for her. I gave her a word, and three months later, she became my wife.

00:22:45.91

Joyful Jerold

All the striving, All the searching that the new age sent me on never fulfilled anything. But in a short period of time of being in a covenant with God, he gave me the desires of my heart.

00:23:03.96

Joyful Jerold

He gave me a wife who fears the Lord. He brought my mom from death to glory. He saved my sister. And on top of all that, my father, who I never spoke to for almost 18 years, who I had in a strange relationship with, on my own birthday, the Lord convicted me to call him.

00:23:24.50

Joyful Jerold

I obeyed and called him. He came out to see me. I sat down on a bench to talk to him in a park. And despite all of the trainings that I paid for, the hundreds of thousands of dollars for Tony Robbins, emotional intelligence, inner trauma healing, ancestral healing, all the ridiculous goose chases of the new age and and the the new age philosophy, the Lord told me, tell him your testimony.

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Joyful Jerold

I told my dad my testimony. That was the first time I ever seen my dad cry. My dad said, can I tell your mind? And I had no idea that my dad on his deathbed was saved by Christ.

00:24:09.62

Joyful Jerold

And then my dad looked at me and said, after all these years, I'm sure you got a lot of questions from me. And my answer was, I have none. All I know is that the Lord commanded me to honor my mother and father. And all I want to do is obey God and have a relationship with you.

00:24:23.99

Joyful Jerold

The Lord mended my relationship with my dad. Now, are we throwing a baseball every day? No, but I have a relationship. He took 40 years of trauma and washed it.

00:24:38.30

Joyful Jerold

That's the power of God. That's the living, breathing testimony of what God can do and what the world can never do. And there is so much more that God has done in my life.

00:24:51.32

Joyful Jerold

from this day forward, putting me in the right places, putting me around the right men of God, giving me men who fear the Lord, helping repair me and bringing me to where I'm at right now, which is the kingdom minded man, which God had given me a prophetic vision to serve the men,

00:25:08.95

Joyful Jerold

of the kingdom of God to help them step into bold leadership, to righteousness, to come back to God and to take the men trapped in the new age and rescue them and pour them into the kingdom of, of God. So they could become wrecking balls for the kingdom and the glory that is coming.

00:25:26.62

Joyful Jerold

Hallelujah.

00:25:30.50

Jonathan Guerrero

What an absolute powerful, powerful, powerful testimony. It is what the Holy Spirit is able to do is limitless.

00:25:41.21

Jonathan Guerrero

And you are living proof of that. i I am absolutely amazed by what God has done in your life. And yeah, do got say, and do got to say another thing from my side of what I heard there.

00:25:50.46

Joyful Jerold

Amen. amen

00:25:55.29

Jonathan Guerrero

When you're talking about all like those demonic rituals that you're following, Oh my goodness. I was just sitting there with a disgusted face. I just had a disgusted look as I was just kind of staring off in the distance. and i was I was a mad boy when I was listening to that.

00:26:11.22

Jonathan Guerrero

But then when you started to tell about your testimony, you started turning back to Jesus. All a sudden, and when you said that when you came into your apartment and just started tearing down of those things that you had in there, like all of those demonic things that you had in there,

00:26:26.74

Jonathan Guerrero

When you started tearing those down, you should have saw me and my dad. We were cheering like it was a football game.

00:26:31.52

Joyful Jerold

Amen.

00:26:31.61

Jonathan Guerrero

Yeah, we were.

00:26:32.28

Joyful Jerold

Praise God.

00:26:33.40

Jonathan Guerrero

And in some ways, too, while you're telling your testimony, I was reliving my own experience. You mentioned some of your gateways into the supernatural.

00:26:44.76

Jonathan Guerrero

For me, it it was dowsing, and that's what that was my gateway. um it's Which is, if people aren't familiar with that, It is an entry level ah practice into the Ouija board.

00:27:01.21

Jonathan Guerrero

So it's basically the same kind of idea where you can interact directly and communicate with the spirit world.

00:27:01.60

Joyful Jerold

Wow.

00:27:09.62

Jonathan Guerrero

And then from there, all kinds of things open up. And there's stuff that I won't get into. It'll give you nightmares. But There are so many instances where the Holy Spirit was actively disrupting some of the things that I was doing because of the prayers of my wife.

00:27:30.97

Jonathan Guerrero

So, and that that's all another story for another time. But I was reliving that as you were explaining your testimony. So a lot of this stuff or how the Holy Spirit interrupts, how how he restores is so familiar in your testimony. And um'm the as and I'm literally...

00:27:52.10

Jonathan Guerrero

I'm literally just kind of nodding as you're like, yep, yep, that's what, yep, the Holy Spirit would do that. Like all of this is just characteristic of who God is and how he works. Like none of this, none of what you said surprises me.

00:28:08.50

Jonathan Guerrero

And yet I'm feeling joy inside as you're saying this because all i all I can see is just how much God loves and bleeds for you.

00:28:21.56

Jonathan Guerrero

and dads listening out there who are who may be trapped.

00:28:22.15

Joyful Jerold

Amen.

00:28:25.94

Jonathan Guerrero

So we're going to go ahead and wrap up this as so this testimony. And so this will be part one, and we'll be concluding this episode. And we will continue with this episode in part two.

00:28:41.70

Jonathan Guerrero

We're going to continue in the next episode, part two.

00:28:46.62

Joyful Jerold

Amen.

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