Political violence grabs headlines. Civil dialogue rarely does.

In this episode of The Future of Human Experience, I'm joined by Carlos Alfaro, co-founder of Arizona Talks, to explore what it actually takes to keep conversations human when disagreement runs deep.

This is not a debate, and it's not about choosing sides.

It's a conversation about curiosity, courage, and why bringing people into the same room still matters in an age designed to divide us.

If you believe the future depends not just on what we build, but on how we listen, this conversation is for you.