When it comes to COVID, the differences in response and in outcome couldn't have been more pronounced between the US and China. Unfortunately, so much of what we see and hear is fueled by the predominant stories and biases about "the other side".

In this episode, Hansen, Seed, and Billy share an open-minded conversation about how the two nations handled this pandemic, and what it can teach us about our commonalities and differences.

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Music by Ari: https://soundcloud.com/arimakemusic