Photographer Garth Lenz and systems scientist Dr. Elizabeth Sawin help us take the details of the past four episodes, process them together, and see the big picture—both through Lenz's aerial photography and Sawin's "multisolving" approach to systemic change.

Learn more about "Rising Tide" and stream the movie at www.novaslc.org/crossroads.

Transcript available at novaslc.org/podcast

Learn more about Climate Interactive at climateinteractive.org, and Dr. Sawin’s TED Talk at youtube.com/watch?v=prF8trTallQ

View Garth Lenz’s photographer at garthlenz.com. His TED Talk on the tar sands can be viewed at ted.com/talks/garth_lenz_the_true_cost_of_oil

Hosts:
Anne Francis Bayless, Fry Street Quartet cellist
Dr. Rob Davies, Utah State University Dept of Physics (Twitter @robsMast)

Guests:
Dr. Elizabeth Sawin, Systems Scientist and Co-Founder/Co-Director of Climate Interactive (Twitter @bethsawin)
Garth Lenz, Photojournalist and Fine Art Photographer (Instagram @Garth.Lenz)

produced by Chris Myers (argylearts.com)

Transcript available at https://www.novaslc.org/novapodcast/novapodcast005

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