The co-hosts chat with journalist Laura Jedeed about the story of Roy Cohn, in order to show the parallels between his life and Kash Patel's. The discussion centers around his role in McCarthyism, as a lawyer for Trump, and why his life was so consequential, despite him being a corrupt and inept jerk. They also get into how some shoes have a sport mode, and why this is perhaps silly. The AI requests new training data. 

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