Welcome to SMAC Talk! Today, fan favorite Gwart joins us for a lucid conversation about their journey into crypto, BTC vs everything else, defensible moats, calling things out in crypto, should the native token really be the gas token, what if Gwart ran the EF and a host of other wide-ranging topics.

Gwart is one of my favorite people in crypto and on twitter so it was a treat to chop it up for almost an hour and a half together. We recorded this ~2 weeks ago for context.

Also check out Gwart's aptly named show -- The Gwart Show -- wherever you get your pods.

this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed are solely opinions, definitely not financial advice.

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