The CW Spiral

The CW Spiral 2x02: Hot takes on the state of TV and streaming


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The state of television is...not good and Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens have decided to speak on it. Get ready for a pod episode full of hot takes as they discuss network TV, the mess that is streaming, cancellations, and fan campaigns. It's hard out here for creatives and fans.

Also on deck: A review of The Winchesters midseason premiere which fell short of expectations, more gushing about Walker Independence, a dive into a wild episode of Nancy Drew that included a lusty dress, and Michael answers the question of whether it's too soon to have another Lex Luthor on The CW.

Looking for a specific part of the episode? Here are some timestamps.

0:35 - Superman and Lois' Lex Luthor has been cast. Is it too soon since Jon Cryer's iteration on Supergirl?

6:42 - The changing landscape of TV and streaming (cancellations, fan response, the structure of storytelling, and more)

37:52 - The Winchesters 1x08 review: A middle of the road episode

49:33 - Walker Independence 1x09 review: Kai shows his hand

1:02:12 - Nancy Drew 2x10 review: The Misadventures of Lusty Drew

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The CW SpiralBy Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, Reed Gaudens