Mike Lewis, David Lafferty, and Nathan Turowsky continue their discussion about the disturbing influence of leaders like Archbishop Viganò and Taylor Marshall on ordinary Catholics.

They talk about the extremes that this "post-truth" or "post-reality" rhetoric has reached - far beyond anyone anticipated - and wonder how much further it might go.

Should Pope Francis act? Have we reached the point of no return? What can we do, if anything, to prevent a schism?