In this episode, Jayo and Stacey dive into the history and controversy behind Disney’s 1985 animated film, "The Black Cauldron." They discuss the film’s troubled production, its impact on Disney’s animation department, and why it stands out as one of the studio’s most infamous movies. The hosts share personal anecdotes, debate the film’s legacy, and invite listeners to share their own thoughts and facts about "The Black Cauldron."

Show Notes & Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Introduction: Meet Jayo and the episode’s theme
• 00:22 – Guest intro: King Germ from "Pod and Saved Our Marriage"
• 00:48 – Topic reveal: The dark side at Disney
• 01:05 – The Black Cauldron: First impressions and memories
• 02:04 – Why this movie? Jayo’s personal connection
• 02:17 – The film’s box office flop and historical context
• 03:24 – Production history: Delays, budget, and technology
• 04:36 – The last film at Disney’s original animation building
• 05:10 – The rise of Disney’s animation renaissance
• 06:00 – The first use of CGI in a Disney film
• 06:45 – What is CGI? Explaining the technology
• 07:30 – The film’s unique sound and PG rating
• 08:20 – Why was the PG rating significant?
• 09:00 – Controversial scenes and test screenings
• 09:50 – The impact of studio cuts on the story
• 10:30 – Storyline discussion: Characters and plot gaps
• 12:00 – The William H. Macy monkey and voice actors
• 13:00 – Comparing characters to TV actors
• 14:00 – Final thoughts: The film’s place in Disney history
• 14:45 – The legacy: Tim Burton, Pixar, and the Disney Renaissance
• 15:00 – Listener challenge: Share your Black Cauldron facts
• 15:30 – Outro and where to find the hosts