In this episode of All Aboard, ConductorOne Co-founder Alex Bovee sits down with AppOmni CTO Brian Soby and investor Pramod Gosavi of Blumberg Capital to unpack a provocative question: is SaaS dead?

The trio dives deep into the rapid rise of agentic AI and its disruptive force on traditional software models. They explore whether agents will replace entire applications, how velocity in AI-driven development is commoditizing SaaS, and why domain expertise and data gravity are the new competitive moat. Brian offers a practitioner’s take from the front lines of SaaS security, while Pramod shares what’s exciting investors—and what’s getting laughed out of the pitch room.

If you’re building, investing in, or just trying to make sense of the AI-native enterprise future, this conversation will challenge your assumptions.