Everyone is talking about tools like ChatGPT and other AI tools that are dominating headlines and threatening to upend every industry possible. But where do these things stand in cybersecurity? In this week's episode, Jon talks to two women who are well-versed on the topic and recently presented about the cybersecurity implications of AI at several conferences. Gergana Karadzhova of Cisco Talos Incident Response and Saskia Laura Schroer, a security consulting engineer for Cisco, discuss how AI is currently influencing attackers and defenders. Are attackers already using these tools? Does it give them superpowers? And what questions are still left unanswered about this emerging technology?