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September 08, 2025 pump.fun's Sapijiju: First-Ever Discussion on Building the Future of Social Trading

Anil Lulla and Yan Liberman host Sapijiju, co-founder of Pump.fun. Sapijiju shares Pump.fun’s bigger vision: beyond meme coins, it’s aiming to be the most rewarding social platform, revolutionizing creator monetization, and building a $2B-backed financial ecosystem.

Pump.fun: https://pump.fun

🎯 Key Highlights

▸ Pump.fun’s vision: TikTok + Robinhood + Twitch in one

▸ Streamers earning 100–300x more than on traditional platforms

▸ 9 failed products before finding product-market fit

▸ Why most crypto firms are just riding Bitcoin

▸ New fee model: $2.4M to creators on day one

▸ Mobile-first: beating desktop crypto apps

▸ $2B balance sheet for smart capital moves

▸ 100% revenue buybacks (Hyperliquid/Binance playbook)

▸ Roadmap: stablecoin + full financial stack

▸ Young founders vs. traditional finance

▸ Why social media’s incentives are broken

▸ Targeting 16–24s ignored by incumbents

▸ Stats: 70 staff, $1.6B locked, billion+ daily volumes

▸ Aggressive M&A, Facebook-style

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▸ Sapijiju's Twitter: @sapijiju

▸ Pump.fun Twitter: @pumpdotfun

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Timestamps

00:00 – Intro & Sapijiju’s crypto journey

04:45 – 9 failed products → Pump.fun success

07:15 – Product-market fit & anti-rug mechanism

09:15 – Scaling team to 70

10:30 – Vision: social trading super-app

13:00 – $2.4M to streamers on launch day

14:15 – Why social platforms fail creators

16:45 – 300x better monetization

18:15 – DMs, streaming & mobile-first

19:30 – Competing vs. Coinbase/Binance

21:45 – User patterns: TikTok + finance

24:30 – Network effects via creator rewards

26:30 – $500k creator starter kits

28:00 – Mobile strategy for viral growth

29:15 – Zora vs. Pump.fun (content vs. coin)

31:15 – Small changes → 5x streaming growth

33:30 – Sandbox for creator freedom

35:15 – Telegram + crypto-native tools

36:30 – Democratized ICOs

38:15 – $1.6B locked, billion+ daily volumes

39:15 – Stablecoin vision

40:15 – Long-term: global takeover

42:30 – $2B balance sheet strategy

44:30 – ROI-driven capital deployment

45:15 – M&A playbook

46:15 – DAT & institutional access

47:15 – Revenue buybacks model

49:15 – VCs missing meme culture

51:15 – Story Protocol critique

53:30 – Meme coins vs. infra “scams”

54:30 – Generational wealth cycles

57:45 – Crypto as last frontier

59:15 – TradFi as modern slavery

1:01:30 – Black Mirror & moderation

1:02:30 – Mobile growth engines

1:03:30 – Scaling to $200M daily revenue

1:04:30 – Post-token comms lessons

1:05:30 – Open DMs & next episode

1:06:15 – Closing thoughts

Disclaimer

This podcast is strictly informational and educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any tokens or securities or to make any financial decisions. Do not trade or invest in any project, tokens, or securities based upon this podcast episode. The host and members at Delphi Ventures may personally own tokens or art that are mentioned on the podcast. Our current show features paid sponsorships which may be featured at the start, middle, and/or the end of the episode. These sponsorships are for informational purposes only and are not a solicitation to use any product, service or token.

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