In this deeply personal and powerful episode, Brian sits down with his longtime discipler and spiritual father, Soup Campbell. What unfolds is more than a conversation—it’s a testimony to the life-changing power of intentional discipleship.

Soup shares the heart behind walking with Brian through different seasons of life, the challenges and joys of investing deeply in one man at a time, and the lessons learned from decades of following Jesus and making disciples. Brian reflects on the impact Soup’s guidance, correction, encouragement, and steady presence have had on his marriage, leadership, and calling.

Together, they unpack:

• What real discipleship actually looks like behind the scenes

• The cost and reward of spiritual fatherhood

• How to disciple men in a way that produces generational impact

• Why proximity, honesty, and obedience matter more than programs

This episode is raw, practical, and inspiring—a masterclass in what it means to walk closely with Jesus and help others do the same.

If you’ve ever wondered what long-term discipleship can truly produce, this conversation will both challenge and encourage you to go deeper.