Daniel and Sarah go on a fantastic voyage of perception covering complicated stuff about your reality and the imagined life with the people you left behind on the road. We then develop the concept of “ to be or be seen” meaning being the first person or having the indirect viewpoint. The 4th wall in movies of not looking into the camera. Fleabag discussed. Engaging directly, soliloquies and asides. Blur compared to focus. Getting your life in focus through experimentation. Daniel worried that photos are never out of focus these days. No sense of getting it spot on by under and over compensating, Knowing when you are the centre of the universe…that subliminal blip. Making eye contact with stage actors. We discuss Laura Wade’s play “The Watsons” (Jane Austin unfinished) in which the actors revolt when the plot goes thin and much more.