In this episode of Black & Published, Nikesha is speaking with author, Deesha Philyaw, about her phenomenal journey with her short story collection, The Secret Lives of Church Ladies, which was a finalist for the 2020 National Book Award and the 2020/2021 Story Prize. 

Episode Notes

In this episode of Black & Published, Nikesha is speaking with author, Deesha Philyaw, about her phenomenal journey with her short story collection, The Secret Lives of Church Ladies, which was a finalist for the 2020 National Book Award and the 2020/2021 Story Prize.

Deesha talks to Nikesha about how the revision process made her love writing more and let go of the need to feel validated, why writing is not indulgent, and how getting free of the things that bind us is a universal need. Deesha also reads "Snowfall" from the collection, and offers some advice on what the saved and the sanctified should stop and start doing. 


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