Katie and Tommy are back for Season 2 with a conversation about TV shows, the Emmy Awards, accompaniment in (and out of) ministry, mom shaming, Ad Orientem Masses (spoiler alert: they like them), and the undeniable fear of being vulnerable.

Why is it that we desperately desire accolades, approval, and feel the need to broadcast every good thing we've ever done?

And why are we so scared to let people get close to us and walk with us on our journeys, when we so clearly want people to see us (sometimes), or at least what we think?

And why do some moms like to shame other moms, because that ain't cool.

Season 2 is in full swing...and there's a lot of waffling going on.

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