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  • 119 - New Creation Kids

    New Creation Kids: A Principle-Led, Bible-Centered Children’s Ministry Curriculum


    Meaghan Turner chats with Youthworks children’s ministry advisors Annemarie Rivers and Cam Harte about New Creation Kids, a new three-year, subscription-based curriculum. It’s been intentionally created to align with Youthworks 7 principles for effective youth and children's ministry with the key focus being on Bible-centered relational ministry, partnering with the home and training leaders effectively. Have a listen to found out how! 

    Launches online Nov 2, 2026 at newcreationkids.org with samples available now.


    00:00 Cold Open Mixup

    01:09 Why Create Curriculum

    02:27 What New Creation Kids Is

    03:14 Principle Led Bible Centred and Relational 

    06:58 Partnering With Parents

    09:53 Leader Training

    12:29 Podcast And Minister Support

    15:10 Not Plug And Play

    17:09 Getting Started Online Platform

    19:19 Unit Structure And Planning

    21:08 Bible Reading Cards NIV

    23:44 Weekly Program Flow

    26:58 Visual Aids Library

    27:34 Apply Head Heart Hands

    29:03 Discussion Questions Toolkit

    30:39 Support And Training

    31:52 Curriculum Purpose

    33:26 Favorite Units Preview

    35:26 Three Year Scope

    42:12 Trust And Review

    43:53 Churches Teaching Together

    46:58 Access And Launch

    49:21 International Use

    50:21 Final Wrap Up

    52 min
  • 118 - Growing High School SRE with Katie Stringer

    Al James speaks with Katie Stringer, a high school SRE teacher and Inner West coordinator, about why SRE matters and how to grow it across schools and year groups. Katie describes coordinating a diverse volunteer team to provide SRE classes, seminars, and lunchtime groups, driven by a conviction that every student should have access to the stories of Jesus and the Bible within the curriculum. They discuss practical growth strategies: regularly asking “How can we get more SRE?”, partnering with local churches and the regional SRE advisor, delivering excellent lessons using the Think Faith curriculum, building consistent coverage through teams with teachers and helpers, and using “novelty” via Easter/Christmas (and other) seminars to raise SRE’s profile. They also cover addressing common issues like irregular timetabling below the 1,200-minute minimum and low attendance of students on the roll by working with principals to align with school procedures.

    00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

    00:40 Katie Role and Vision

    02:47 Why SRE Matters

    04:46 Katie Journey Into SRE

    07:55 Meet the Volunteer Team

    11:58 Growing SRE Big Picture

    13:32 From Zero to One

    17:10 Why Year 11 and 12

    20:11 Expand to Nearby Schools

    22:17 Local Context Advantage

    22:55 Excellent Bible Curriculum

    23:59 Consistency Game Time Mindset

    25:55 Why Four Touchpoints Matter

    29:02 Teamwork Teacher And Helper

    33:22 Recruitment Pipeline Capacity

    35:32 Novelty Christmas Easter Seminars

    42:36 Fixing Minutes And Attendance

    45:57 Team Sport Final Encouragement



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    46 min
  • 117 - House Conference | Post Conference Q and A with Derek Brotherson and Mike Dicker

    In this post–House Conference Q&A episode of the Effective Ministry Podcast, Al James reunites paper presenters Mike Dicker (Fit for Purpose: Contextualization in Children's and Youth Ministry) and Derek Brotherson (How Far is Too Far? Contextualization versus Syncretism in Youth and Children's Ministry) to revisit unanswered conference questions on contextualization. They discuss conference highlights, define contextualization against relativism and syncretism, and explain why contextualization is a method or lens rather than a prescriptive “supermodel” for ministry. The conversation covers top-down versus bottom-up approaches, working within senior-minister-led models, who determines ministry principles, and the relationship between faithfulness, outcomes, and effectiveness without “ends justify means” pragmatism. They address removing unnecessary offense while preserving the offense of the cross, how far contextualization extends (even to individuals), and how to identify “cultural barnacles” through reflection, cross-cultural engagement, and humble Bible reading.

    You can find out about House Conference here: www.youthworks.net/house

    00:00 Series Setup and Purpose

    01:16 Next Year Conference Preview

    01:50 Meet the Presenters

    04:05 Conference Highlights

    06:57 Paper Summaries

    09:16 Relativism and Syncretism

    15:18 Models Versus Method

    19:57 Working Under Senior Models

    24:23 Who Sets Ministry Principles

    29:00 Doctrine to Practice

    31:53 Principles and Outcomes

    35:23 Freedom and Experimentation

    38:14 Homogeneous Unit Debate

    39:46 How Far to Contextualize

    44:51 Offense of the Gospel

    49:33 Paul and Giving Up Rights

    55:46 Spotting Cultural Barnacles

    59:36 Final Thanks and Wrap

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    1 hr 2 min
  • 116 - House Conference Paper Reflections with Toby Knights, Sarah Doughton and Luke Graham

    In this House Conference 2026 lead-up episode on the theme “anchored and adaptable,” a Youthworks host interviews Sydney-area practitioners Toby, Sarah, and Luke about first impressions of two conference papers by Mike and Derek on a theology of contextualization in children’s and youth ministry. They emphasize there is no “silver bullet,” that context is always changing, and that leaders must thoughtfully adapt programs and curriculum while staying anchored in core principles. They discuss practical examples such as shifting from young-adult-led rosters to parent-led ministry, giving leaders permission to contextualize resources, and evaluating models like Godly Play with caution about relativism while learning from their strengths. A key diagnostic question highlighted is, “What vision of God, the gospel, and the Christian life will this practice cultivate?” They also explore outreach tensions, cultural blind spots, learning from other churches and mission partners, and discipling young people without forcing them into adult molds.

     

    01:35 Meet the Panel

    03:43 First Impressions No Silver Bullet

    06:53 Context Shifts in Practice

    09:00 Adapting Resources and Leaders

    11:21 Godly Play and Bottom Up Cautions

    15:46 Evaluating Models with Key Questions

    20:41 Outreach Attractive vs Anchored

    22:20 Culture Language and Bait Switch

    27:16 Symbols Rituals 

    32:24 Learning from Other Contexts

    40:01 Kids Teens and Being Themselves

    49:34 Wrap Up and Next Steps

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    50 min
  • 115 - House Conference Paper Reading 2026 - How Far Is Too Far? Contextualization vs. Syncretism in Youth and Children’s Ministry by Derek Brotherson

    House Conference Paper Reading 2026 - How Far Is Too Far? Contextualization vs. Syncretism in Youth and Children’s Ministry by Derek Brotherson


    This House Conference 2026 lead-up episode is an audio reading of Derek Brotherson’s paper, “How Far Is Too Far? Distinguishing Contextualization from Syncretism. Drawing on missionary experience in a Muslim-majority Southeast Asian context, Brotherson describes adopting cultural adaptations and encountering a “Muslim follower of Isa” using Islamic worship forms while confessing Jesus and the Bible, prompting his PhD research on biblical discernment. He argues common “restrictive” (origin-based) and “permissive” (inherently disqualifying) tests are unhelpful, proposing instead an outcome-focused test: whether a form will facilitate or hinder faith and worship. Using biblical examples, he shows forms shape belief, can import unwanted meanings, and may sometimes need avoiding, applying the framework to ministry scenarios like Diwali-themed events, “hot nights,” children’s Bibles, surf church, and social-action strategies.

    00:00 Series Setup

    01:14 Key Terms Preview

    02:32 Paper Introduction

    03:06 Mission Field Story

    08:02 Same Question Everywhere

    09:22 Youth Ministry Scenarios

    12:16 Need a Framework

    16:41 Unhelpful Tests

    17:36 Restrictive Origin Test

    23:03 Permissive Form Test

    29:06 Outcome Focused Test

    32:26 Impact Considerations

    32:50 Forms Shape Belief

    34:33 Forms Engage God

    37:06 Borrowed Forms Risks

    40:01 Imported Meanings Danger

    44:05 Form Meaning Link

    47:43 When to Avoid Forms

    49:38 Conclusion Implications

    50:36 Conservative Takeaways

    52:19 Adventurous Takeaways

    53:21 Final Discernment Call

    Glossary:
    | Term | Definition
    | Ablutions | Ritual washing performed before prayer in Islamic practice.
    | Ascetic practices | Practices of extreme self-denial or bodily denial believed to bring spiritual benefit.
    | Contextualization | Faithfully communicating and applying the gospel and Christian ministry within a particular culture or context without compromising its essence.
    | Form (worship form) | An outward practice, ritual, symbol, or expression used in worship, such as a prayer posture, festival, or ritual meal.
    | Kaaba (Kabah) | The cube-shaped building in Mecca that Muslims face during prayer.
    | Meaning (in relation to form) | The significance, belief, or function that a community attaches to a worship form.
    | Structuralist approach/test | An evaluative method that judges a practice according to what its form is or where it originates, rather than according to its function or effect.
    | Syncretism | The inappropriate incorporation of non-Christian beliefs, practices, or cultural elements into Christian faith, distorting it into something no longer authentically Christian.

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    We would love to hear from you! Send your thoughts, comments, and suggestions to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

    56 min
  • 114 - House Conference Paper Reading 2026 - Fit for Purpose: Contextualization in Children’s and Youth Ministry by Mike Dicker

    Fit for Purpose: Contextualization in Children’s and Youth Ministry


    This House Conference 2026 lead-up episode introduces the “Anchored and Adaptable” series on a theology of contextualization in youth and children’s ministry and features an audio reading of Rev Mike Dicker’s paper, “Fit for Purpose: Contextual Children’s and Youth Ministry,”.
    Dicker critiques the search for reproducible “supermodels” of ministry, arguing the New Testament shows context-conditioned practices rather than prescribed models, and that ministry should be theologically driven. Drawing on debates from cross-cultural mission, he defines contextualization broadly as Christian expression shaped by culture yet faithful to the gospel, explains culture as an organic whole, and uses divine accommodation to show God reveals himself through human media while remaining transcendent. He warns that navigating contextualization requires avoiding the twin dangers of syncretism (religious and cultural) and postmodern relativism (expressive individualism), illustrated in youth “incarnational” and children’s “Godly Play” approaches.

    00:00 Series Setup

    01:07 Glossary Highlights

    02:32 Paper Begins

    03:02 Ministry Model Wars

    07:53 Why Context Matters

    08:41 Mission Roots

    10:47 Debating Definitions

    13:42 Culture Shapes Ministry

    19:09 Faith And Culture

    20:27 Divine Accommodation

    28:30 Inculturated Yet Transforming

    30:27 Over And Under Contextualizing

    35:01 Syncretism Risks

    38:55 Relativism And Expressive Self

    48:19 Navigating The Middle

    51:03 Final Summary


    Glossary
    | Term | Definition
    | Anthropomorphic | Describing God in human terms or forms, including Scripture’s language about God.
    | Contextualization | Faithfully communicating and applying the gospel and Christian ministry within a particular culture or context without compromising its essence.
    | Deism / Monism | Deism understands God as wholly separate from creation; monism understands all reality as a single substance.
    | Divine accommodation | The theological concept that God reveals himself through human language, forms, and media—such as Scripture and the incarnation—while remaining transcendent.
    | Expressive individualism | The modern cultural emphasis on discovering and authentically expressing one’s own unique identity, referenced through Charles Taylor.
    | Immanence / Transcendence | God’s nearness to and involvement in creation, contrasted with his being beyond and independent of creation.
    | Incarnational youth ministry | A youth ministry approach associated with Ward and Borgman that emphasises meeting young people within their own culture in order to evangelise and disciple them.
    | Indigenization | An earlier missiological term that contextualization was coined to replace or develop at the World Council of Churches in 1972.
    | Neo-incarnational youth ministry | Andrew Root’s development of incarnational youth ministry that removes the evangelistic goal and makes the relationship itself the end.
    | Pantheism / Panentheism | Pantheism identifies God with creation; panentheism understands creation as existing within God.
    | Relativism | The denial of absolute or objective truth, morality, and knowledge, treating each viewpoint as valid only relative to an individual or cultural context.
    | Syncretism | The inappropriate incorporation of non-Christian beliefs, practices, or cultural elements into Christian faith, distorting it into something no longer authentically Christian.
    | Syncretism: cultural | The distortion of Christian faith through unexamined cultural customs or values.
    | Syncretism: religious | The blending of practices from another religion, such as Islam, into Christian faith.

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    54 min
  • 113 - The Story of Us: Helping Teenagers Navigate Gender, Sexuality, and the Gospel’s Goodness with Simon Swadling

    The Story of Us: Helping Teenagers Navigate Gender, Sexuality, and the Gospel’s Goodness


    Al James interviews Simon Swadling about his new five-week youth video resource, The Story of Us, developed over three years from Moore College research on identity and theological anthropology, to help teenagers think deeply about what it means to be human and how the Bible’s story applies to gender and sexuality. Referencing a quote from Toby Knights, they discuss how teens increasingly evaluate Christianity through the lens of harm and oppression rather than truth, and argue the gospel is both true and good, offering a secure place to wrestle with discomfort compassionately. Swadling explains the resource’s structure (world story, sin’s impact, God’s better story centered on Jesus, then implications) and its five “tent poles”: made by God, made for relationships, made embodied, made to grow over time, and made for Christ. 

    Links: 
    Story of Us Resource

    • https://thestoryofus.org.au, 

    Living Faith

    •  https://livingfaith.online, 

    Simon's article that we mention, "The Problem with Finding Your Identity in Christ"

    • https://simonswadling.substack.com/p/the-problem-with-finding-your-identity.
    • And the podcast episode based on the article

    Time Stamps:
    02:00 Podcast Welcome

    03:17 Why This Resource

    06:19 Teen Pressures Today

    09:34 Vibes And Worldviews

    13:16 Truth And Discomfort

    16:34 Beyond Right And Wrong

    21:26 Why Gender And Sexuality

    24:18 Five Week Framework

    30:05 How Youth Groups Use It

    32:55 Hopes For Youth Ministry

    35:29 Where To Find It

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    37 min
  • 112 - Effective Ministry - Lessons from the field (Youthworks' Effective Ministry Tool)

    In this episode of the Effective Ministry Podcast, Josh hosts Cam Harte and Chris Jones from Youthworks Ministry Support Team to discuss ministry effectiveness using Youthworks’ Effective Ministry Tool (EMT). The EMT is a self-reported survey completed by senior, kids, and youth ministry leaders to assess the health of kids and youth ministries against the 7 Principles of Effective Ministry.
    https://www.youthworks.net/ministry-support/7-principles

    With 400+ responses from 130 churches over several years, they discuss strengths, weaknesses, and opportunities in our kids and youth ministries. Listen in to hear real-world reflections about how we are doing, and where we might go next in the world of kids and youth ministry. 


    Information on the Effective Ministry Tool can be found here:
    https://www.youthworks.net/ministry-support/effective-ministry-tool

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    46 min
  • 111 - Winter Holidays

    Winter Holiday Check-In

    Meaghan and Al from Youthworks’ Effective Ministry Podcast reflect during the winter holidays on topics they’ve been thinking about, including questions around using AI in youth ministry and how AI raises deeper issues of autonomy, authorship, authentic connection, and Christian anthropology. Meaghan shares her current focus on under fives, offering practical tips such as keeping teaching simple, attending to a child’s emotional state so they feel safe, heard, and secure, and physically getting down to a child’s level to reduce power dynamics. They acknowledge that the long 11-week winter term in New South Wales has left many kids and youth ministers tired, with some resting and others running holiday clubs or camps. The hosts invite listeners to email prayer points and Q&A questions to [email protected], announce a short podcast break, and say the show returns on 22 July.

    00:00 Winter Holiday Catch Up
    00:37 AI And Being Human
    03:22 Under Fives Ministry Tips
    07:12 Why This Episode
    07:29 Holiday Season Realities
    09:06 Pls Send Prayer Points!
    09:49 Podcast Break And Return Date

    12 min
  • 110 - Parenting in God's Family with Harriet Connor and Ann Cunningham

    Parenting in God's Family Vol. 2 | A Resource for Families & Ministry Leaders

    What does it look like to raise children who are anchored in Christ — and how can youth and children's ministry leaders partner with parents to make it happen?

    In this crossover episode with the Timeless Parenting Podcast (hosted by Ann Cunningham and Harriet Connor from Mothers' Union Sydney and Growing Faith/Youthworks), Al James sits down to explore the newly released Parenting in God's Family Volume 2 — a multi-author resource that's as relevant for ministry workers as it is for parents.

    In this episode:

    • The biblical-theological framework behind Christ-anchored parenting — creation, fallenness, responsibility in Christ, the church, the changing world, and eternity
    • Why parents are the primary disciplers of their children — and why youth/kids ministers are vital partners (not substitutes)
    • What the research says about children who stick with faith into adulthood
    • How to have grace-filled conversations about culture, mental health, AI, and a changing world
    • Why intergenerational discipleship in the local church matters more than ever
    • The danger of outsourcing your child's faith formation — and how ministry leaders can bridge the gap with families

    Whether you're a parent, a youth pastor, a kids' ministry leader, or a church worker thinking about how to better equip families — this conversation is for you.


    Parenting in God's Family Volume 2
    You can find Parenting in God's Family Volume 2 for purchase at Youthworks Media

    Register For House - Anchored and Adaptable
    House Conference is happening the 25-27th August 2026 and will be on a Theology of Contextualisation with Mike Dicker (Principal at Youthworks College) and Derek Brotherson (Principal at Sydney Missionary and Bible College)

    Register here: youthworks.net/house

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    46 min

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