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The Elephant in the Training Room with Julie Dirksen


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The Elephant in the Training Room with Julie Dirksen. In this episode of Multiply Transfer Radio, host Fergal Connolly interviews learning and development expert Julie Dirksen about effective training strategies. They discuss the limitations of traditional training methods, stressing the importance of practical application and reinforcing learning in the workplace. Julie emphasizes the need to move beyond simply creating content by understanding the intricacies of how people actually learn and making training relevant and meaningful. Key takeaways include the significance of repeated exposure, the role of managers in reinforcing training, and understanding the emotional and practical needs of learners. Julie also highlights upcoming trends in virtual reality and artificial intelligence that could revolutionize learning experiences.

00:00 Introduction to Multiply Transfer Radio

02:30 Understanding Effective Learning Design

04:39 Challenges in Learning Application

07:35 The Importance of Iterative Learning

10:20 Making Learning Meaningful and Contextual

16:37 Addressing Modern Learning Distractions

20:35 The Rider and the Elephant Metaphor

23:41 The Disconnect Between Logic and Emotion in Learning

26:15 Understanding Audience Motivation

27:07 Designing Learning for Behavior Change

34:14 The Role of Managers in Learning Transfer

40:12 Exciting Research and Emerging Ideas

44:41 Practical Advice for Effective Training

46:52 Conclusion and Key Takeaways


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Julie Dirksen can be found at:

  • LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliedirksen/
  • Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/designforhowpeoplelearn
  • Julie’s online course: https://designbetterlearning.com/
  • Julie’s current workshop offerings: https://usablelearning.com/current/
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