When Juliet heard that Jon had just sent two novels to his agent and was anxiously waiting a response, she suggested we discuss the emotions of writing.

So, we consider the ups and downs of writing and rewriting, of getting lost and being found along the way. We also talk about getting books published and watching them go off into the big wide world and the hurricane of feelings that evokes.

Juliet brings the show to a close with a glimmer of editorial hope.