In this episode, Poncho & Cruz sit down with Entertainment Attorney Jared Shababb to discuss ways to get paid with music, the reality of music contracts, when to hire lawyers & many more topics surrounding artists' success within their careers.

"The Encore Podcast is a show dedicated to inspiring, creatives & entrepreneurs on the pursuit on their fullest potential."

Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
2:00 - Disclaimer
2:19 - Comeup story
8:01 - Jared opening his firm
8:54 - Differences between managers & lawyers in the industry
11:26 - Should artists get a manager or lawyer first
12:14 - Predatory contracts / how often they’re presented in the industry
13:41 - Why most creatives don’t understand business
15:54 - Hiring a criminal lawyer for music contracts?
17:03 - How to find & vet music attorneys
20:42 - The power of word of mouth
21:36 - Where attorneys are located
25:05 - Working with attorneys virtually
26:27 - Do creatives need to pay to have a contract reviewed?
27:45 - The realities of running a business
28:07 - Flat fee, hourly or percentage based: what artists should negotiate for when working with lawyers
31:39 - What makes Jared want to work with an artist
33:56 - How to get lawyers to waive fees
34:59 - Should creatives learn the business before approaching a lawyer?
36:04 - Music copyrights 101
39:33 - How to get paid off publishing
45:08 - Sync deals
46:58 - How royalties should be split between creatives
50:38 - What to expect when working with a lawyer
55:55 - Why attorneys are hard to find
1:00:33 - Advice for people interested in entertainment law
1:02:33 - Entertainment law politics
1:03:50 - How to prepare for meeting with a lawyer
1:09:24 - How to reach out to lawyers / different lawyer personalities
1:11:37 - How to become appealing to record labels
1:14:22 - How many streams necessary to attract a label
1:15:08 - How to present yourself to a label
1:18:05 - Outro