Kelly and Cathy thank the listeners and end The Up Close Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kelly and Cathy thank the listeners and end The Up Close Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kelly and Cathy thank the listeners and end The Up Close Podcast.&nbsp;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The End

Kelly and Cathy are a mother and daughter duo, answering listener questions and interviewing everyday people to uncover vulnerabilities, fears, and strengths through conversation. Kelly Ziemann brings a clinical perspective and has been a therapist since 2011. Cathy Harvath provides a straight forward perspective and decades of life experience.

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