Joe and Jimmy are joined by Richard Clark (no, not that one) to talk about the whole enneagram phenomenon. What is the enneagram, and is it something we should be wary of, or does it have some value? You can check out the book, The Road Back to You, for a positive perspective, and Kevin DeYoung's critique here. CT also has an article called The Enneagram for Pastors that you can check out.

Richard is the co-founder Christ in Pop Culture, and the director of editorial development for CT Pastors and Preaching Today at Christianity Today. Richard also hosts The Calling podcast, which you should definitely check out. You can follow Richard in Twitter and Instagram.