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We always worried about lock-in.
But the real risk is getting locked out – of your cloud.
Your data may sit in Europe.
Your systems may run on trusted platforms.
But if access is restricted tomorrow – by a provider, a government, or a legal decision - what actually happens?
Can you still operate?
In this episode of Threat Talks, Lieuwe Jan Koning (co-founder and CTO at ON2IT Cybersecurity) speaks with Lokke Moerel (Professor of Global ICT Law at Tilburg University and leading expert in EU cybersecurity regulation) to break down what data sovereignty really means- beyond the illusion of control.
Because sovereignty doesn’t fail where you think it does.
It breaks in four places:
Most organizations only solve the first - and that’s where the real risk starts: dependency on providers you don’t control.
As cloud and AI deepen that dependency, the question isn’t where your data sits, but who decides what happens to it tomorrow.
From sovereign cloud initiatives to European AI models like GPT-NL, this episode explores how regions are trying to regain control, and why relying entirely on big tech may not be sustainable.
Key Topics Covered
Resources
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By Threat TalksWe always worried about lock-in.
But the real risk is getting locked out – of your cloud.
Your data may sit in Europe.
Your systems may run on trusted platforms.
But if access is restricted tomorrow – by a provider, a government, or a legal decision - what actually happens?
Can you still operate?
In this episode of Threat Talks, Lieuwe Jan Koning (co-founder and CTO at ON2IT Cybersecurity) speaks with Lokke Moerel (Professor of Global ICT Law at Tilburg University and leading expert in EU cybersecurity regulation) to break down what data sovereignty really means- beyond the illusion of control.
Because sovereignty doesn’t fail where you think it does.
It breaks in four places:
Most organizations only solve the first - and that’s where the real risk starts: dependency on providers you don’t control.
As cloud and AI deepen that dependency, the question isn’t where your data sits, but who decides what happens to it tomorrow.
From sovereign cloud initiatives to European AI models like GPT-NL, this episode explores how regions are trying to regain control, and why relying entirely on big tech may not be sustainable.
Key Topics Covered
Resources
Subscribe to Threat Talks and turn on notifications for deep dives into the world’s most active cyber threats and hands-on exploitation techniques.
🔔 Follow and Support our channel! 🔔
===
► YOUTUBE: / @threattalks
► SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/1SXUyUE...
► APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
👕 Receive your Threat Talks T-shirt
https://threat-talks.com/
🗺️ Explore the Hack's Route in Detail 🗺️
https://threat-talks.com
🕵️ Threat Talks is a collaboration between @ON2IT and @AMS-IX