Evil Eye jewelry is all the rage right now, think boho, Coachella…you know the look. But for Sheila the Evil Eye isn’t just a cute piece of jewelry it’s a trauma response. This week, Sheila delves into her relationship with the Evil Eye and how growing up in a superstitious Iranian household has impacted her ability to feel joy. Life is full of ups and downs, is it because of the Evil Eye or could it just be how life goes?

Small Talk With Sheila is written and hosted by Sheila Kazan. It was produced by Kathleen Speckert and edited, mixed and mastered by Ali Sirois.