Amelia and Edan play a call from a listener explaining further why she wants to have surgery, and they use that to discuss body acceptance/shame, and aging in general. Is getting Botox anti-feminist? And where are all the old people? At about 35:00, they interview photographer Elinor Carucci about her new book Midlife and how she explores aging, motherhood, and her family through her art.

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