In this concluding part, David and Stephanie reflect on the series and why we decided to do it in the first place. With a deep conviction that our spiritual lives are defined by experience, not just belief, they discuss the human need for a relationship with the divine as a hunger to be filled rather than mere information. This honest conversation covers varied church experiences, the pain of religious trauma, and the pursuit of a ‘second naivety’—a rediscovery of our first love for God, where intimacy and trust become the bedrock of faith.

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