In a first for the podcast, Izzy and Anna experience a technical glitch – that glitch being they lose half of their recording (RIP). But at least the remaining half is packed full of lichen-y goodness. Anna talks about her recent research into lichen, Izzy eats some chocolate fingers, and then they discuss how to bring scientific research into artistic practice. The artworks Anna mentions are 'Kinnomic Botany' and 'Making a Name' by Iman Datoo. Music: Ketsa, Still Room On The Night Train available at https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa.