In 2019, having almost no experience of journalism whatsoever, Charlie Baker decided to launch a print magazine. In a world where print readership is in dire decline, people thought he was completely nuts — but over five years on, The Fence is flying.

Marina Hyde and Richard Osman recently toasted the magazine on their podcast The Rest is Entertainment, and Patrick Radden Keefe says it is the only place he gets his news. Keefe probably wasn’t being entirely serious when he said that but he has written for The Fence, along with people like John Banville, Roísín Lanigan, Fergus Butler-Gallie, and our own Patrick Galbraith. Charlie talks to Patrick about why he thinks that reading print is preferable to reading digitally, what makes a great story, and the future of magazines in a rapidly-changing media landscape.

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