Adam was lucky enough to sit with John and Tom from Reroflex Games and Crow Industries respectively. The main reason was to discuss Havok and the work they are doing to bring it back from the dead, but we also, as always, go all over the place with a suprising end.

We experienced some massive technical difficulties whilst recording this, which may lead to some odd cuts and hard edits. My apologies to John and Tom and to you guys for that.