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In this episode of "Up on Foil", we interview Gunnar Biniasch, an early adaptor in the foiling and kite sports community. Gunnar shares his journey from kiting to foiling, discussing the evolution of kite sports and the impact of winging on water sports. He emphasizes the importance of safety and visibility in wing foiling and provides insights into his role in foil development. The conversation also touches on Gunnar's personal challenges, his passion for music, and his optimistic outlook on the future of water sports.