In this episode of I’m Finally Reading My Brother’s Book, Clay and Gavin push deeper into the strange architecture of the universe. We explore the idea of narrative energy—how tweaking the “frame rates” of reality can reveal the fundamental forces in surprising ways. Gavin makes his unforgettable case for smashing two eggplants together (and yes, it’s actually about physics).

We also wrap up the “breaking down” phase of the universe and prepare to start building it back up again, axiom by axiom. Along the way, we wrestle with strange loops, self-reference, and the ultimate paradox: how can we hope to understand the Big Bang while still being inside it?

Join us for a conversation that mixes cosmology, curiosity, and a little sibling chaos.