Can men and women really be just friends, or is that naive optimism? In this episode, we tackle one of the most debated relationship questions head-on. Betina shares surprisingly candid stories from her past where physical connections actually opened doors to genuine platonic friendships, though she wrestles with how to tell those stories now that her life looks completely different. Jen brings insights from conversations with multiple friends, including her life partner, that challenge common assumptions about what's possible between the sexes. We explore whether society's skepticism about cross-gender friendship says more about cultural narratives than actual reality, and discuss how to create authentic connections that honor boundaries without being imprisoned by fear. If you've ever been told that opposite-sex friendships are impossible or inappropriate, this conversation will permit you to trust your own experience.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

2:10 Temp Check: Platonic Possibility Temperature

15:53 Backstory: Times when opposite sex friendships thrived without romantic complications

35:32 Life Focus: Exploring whether men and women can truly be friends; examining societal assumptions versus personal experience; creating space for authentic connection beyond romance

57:47 Recipes: Just Friends Flatbread: Simple ingredients that compliment without overpowering

Recipes:

Jen’s Fig, goat cheese, and arugula flatbread

Layer a flatbread with goat cheese, caramelized onions, figs, and arugula.

Bake.

Enjoy

Betina’s Sweet Potato Flatbread

Boil a sweet potato

Slice and smash

Add an egg

Add sesame seeds

Flatten in a skillet with avocado oil

Brown lightly on both sides.

Serve as you choose with cheese and veggies

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

15:27 “A Little Closure (Heyson Remix)” - Deanz

31:17 “What’s Your Vibe” - Lofive

44:02 “Please Come Back” - NIGHTCAP

61:04 “A Little Closure (Heyson Remix)” - Deanz

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