Goodness is one of those fruits of the Spirit that never seems to draw much attention. It can feel a little beige, a little underwhelming, even boring. but goodness - when we really dig into it - is a whole lot more than just being okay. It's the expression of God's nature in our lived reality! Jo and Aimee talk with Barry Klopper, who's a family lawyer, and he sees the lack of goodness in people's lives every day and has first-hand experience of what goodness can do when people are in chaos.