This was such a fun conversation with Matt Mikalatos and Kathy Khang, co-authors of “Loving Disagreement: Fighting for Community through the Fruit of the Spirit.” During the conversation you may notice a faint buzzer in the background. This episode was recorded at the local public library, which shares space with the high school library, and the buzzer rang a couple of times as classes switched.

Both Kathy and Matt have their own solo projects. You can find Kathy on all the socials @mskathykhang, except her blog: http://www.kathykhang.com. Matt has his own Substack called Imaginary Friends: mattmikalatos.substack.com. You’ll also want to stay tuned for his new graphic novel, “God With Us: Bible Stories on the Road to Emmaus,” coming out April 1st, 2025.

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