In this episode of Micro Journeys, host Daniel Marrujo sits down with Dr. Stacie Williams, Chief Science Officer for the U.S. Space Force. Dr. Williams shares her remarkable path from studying chemistry in Arkansas to leading science and technology initiatives that shape America’s role in space. Her journey spans academia, startups, national labs, and high-level defense leadership, offering listeners a rare look into the making of a scientist-leader at the forefront of national security.

The conversation digs into how passion, curiosity, and persistence fueled her career. From early experiences in male-dominated labs to advancing spectroscopy at Los Alamos, to leading programs at DARPA and AFRL, Dr. Williams emphasizes the importance of collaboration, engaging operators directly, and aligning research with real-world missions. She also opens up about the critical challenges Space Force faces today—balancing rapid innovation with long-term research investment, building a resilient workforce, and fostering global partnerships.

Ultimately, Dr. Williams highlights the central role science and technology play in both national defense and economic growth. Her insights underscore why consistent investment in early-stage research and stronger collaboration across government, industry, academia, and international allies are key to shaping the future of space operations.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

[00:52] Dr. Stacie Williams’ early passion for science and the path from Little Rock to UC Santa Cruz

[09:11] Lessons from DARPA: working with operators and developing laser detection systems

[12:27] Overcoming challenges at AFRL Maui and imaging satellites in daylight

[16:51] The origins of the U.S. Space Force and its mission to ensure freedom of action in space

[19:30] What it means to serve as Chief Science Officer and how science informs strategy

[24:58] Key risks in space technology and why stable investment in R&D is critical

[33:10] Why faster field testing and stronger industry-academic-government ties are essential

Let’s Connect:

• Daniel Marrujo
• Dr. Stacie Williams
• TSS Website
• The Punaro Group

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