It's been a challenging time to be part of a humanitarian organization in the U.S. The terms: foreign assistance aid and foreign aid have been discussed a lot lately. But, what do they really mean? Can humanitarian aid to help people affected by conflict and violence—the work we do at International Committee of the Red Cross—really meet an America-first agenda? On today's episode, ICRC's Head of the US & Canada Delegation Fabrizio Carboni sits down with Kathryn-Jean Lopez, editor-at-large at the National Review, a U.S. magazine and news website publishing conversative commentary.

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