In this episode of Make or Break, Mo Berkner Boyt is joined by Dr. Alexis Fink for an insightful conversation about organizational transformation, AI activation, and the critical role of systems thinking in navigating disruptive change.

Together, they unpack what it really takes to lead through transformation in a way that is practical, human-centered, and sustainable. Dr. Fink shares how leaders can move beyond surface-level change efforts and instead create the conditions for real adoption by aligning data, strategy, and people across the organization.

They explore:

• why systems thinking matters during periods of disruption

• how to use data more effectively to guide decisions

• why involving people at every level is essential for transformation to stick

• how to activate AI in ways that create measurable value

From understanding the dynamics of change to making AI adoption more meaningful, this episode offers a clear framework for approaching transformation more strategically.

If you’re leading through uncertainty, modernizing your organization, or looking for practical ways to make change work in the real world, this conversation will give you a sharper lens on what drives lasting impact.

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Follow + Connect with our guest:

Dr. Alexis Fink 

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexisfink/ 

Website - https://www.propellerinsight.org/

Substack - https://alexisfink.substack.com/