Ruby is joined by former Bethesda and League of Geeks employee and current New Blood Interactive studio mother Kelsey Gamble to talk all about the highs, lows, and daunting present of the video games industry. It's a classic case of 'If you don't laugh, you'll cry'.

Find Kelsey here:

https://twitter.com/kindofsquishy

https://www.instagram.com/kindofsquishy

Follow Kelsey's work here:

https://newblood.games/

https://oddlark.com/

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https://backpocket.gg/

https://twitch.tv/back_pocket

https://youtube.com/@BackPocketVids

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