This week, for the final podcast of 2025, Matt, Pete and Jonjo are joined by Author and former NASA Scientist, Alan Smale. Where in we talk how he came to work for NASA, how he got into writing , his Alt history book series Clash of Eagles and Hot Moon and much much more!

You can find Alan here:

https://www.alansmale.com/

https://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/sci/bio/alan.p.smale

And as always, you can download this podcast, and all the rest, on any good podcasting site / App