In a world shaped by urgency, distraction, and performance, what does it mean to lead with real presence? 

In this episode, Don reflects on the rare gift of giving someone your full attention and is joined by Martha Kempe, former Head of Schools at Wayfinder Schools, whose remarkable career building humane, resilient spaces for vulnerable people offers a powerful window into leadership shaped by compassion, depth, and care. 

Together, they explore how presence can restore dignity, deepen trust, and shape the kind of environments where people are more able to thrive. It’s a thoughtful conversation about the quiet, often overlooked ways presence can become one of the most transformative forces in leadership. 

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