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The Geopolitics of Cyberspace: From Espionage to Cyberwar, ft. Adam Segal of CFR (EP 26)
In this episode, Adam Segal, discusses the evolving landscape of cyber power, cyber warfare, and cyber espionage. He outlines key technological areas essential for future military and economic competitiveness, such as semiconductors, biology, new materials, and energy. Segal also examines the rise of Chinese and U.S. cyber capabilities, the impact of private sector involvement, the role of major state and non-state actors, and the current state of international cyber policy. He shares lessons from the Russia-Ukraine conflict and emphasizes the importance of maintaining technological control, a principle rooted in Chinese strategic thinking since the 19th century. Finally, he talks about the challenges and opportunities of U.S.-India cyber cooperation and the potential for different countries to build vibrant digital ecosystems.
00:00 Introduction to Chinese Technological Ambitions
00:32 Guest Introduction: Adam Segal
01:19 The Evolution of Chinese Cyber Capabilities
11:00 Historical Context of Chinese Technological Control
15:26 Global Cyber Power Dynamics
31:24 National Cyber Capabilities and Strategies
39:21 Private Sector's Role in Cybersecurity
42:19 Non-State Actors in Cyberspace
45:49 International Cyber Alliances
48:23 Economic Cyber Espionage
49:37 Public-Private Cooperation in Cybersecurity
57:58 U.S. International Cyber Policy
01:06:40 U.S.-India Cyber Cooperation
01:10:34 Conclusion and Recommendations
Book Links:
Anirudh Suri:
The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri - https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My
Adam Segal
The Hacked World Order: https://amzn.in/d/ewMaEUM
Advantage: How American Innovation Can Overcome the Asian Challenge: https://amzn.in/d/1xvS8je
Digital Dragon: https://amzn.in/d/8ll79kU
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#GeopoliticsOfTechnology #Cybersecurity #USChinaTechCompetition #DigitalColdWar #CyberWarfare #RansomwareThreat #NationalSecurity #TechInnovation #ChineseTech #DigitalPolicy #StateDepartment #CyberEspionage #CriticalInfrastructure #DigitalSolidarity #PublicPrivatePartnerships #TechTalent #InternationalCyberPolicy #DigitalEcosystems #CyberAlliances #EmergingTech
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By Anirudh SuriIn this episode, Adam Segal, discusses the evolving landscape of cyber power, cyber warfare, and cyber espionage. He outlines key technological areas essential for future military and economic competitiveness, such as semiconductors, biology, new materials, and energy. Segal also examines the rise of Chinese and U.S. cyber capabilities, the impact of private sector involvement, the role of major state and non-state actors, and the current state of international cyber policy. He shares lessons from the Russia-Ukraine conflict and emphasizes the importance of maintaining technological control, a principle rooted in Chinese strategic thinking since the 19th century. Finally, he talks about the challenges and opportunities of U.S.-India cyber cooperation and the potential for different countries to build vibrant digital ecosystems.
00:00 Introduction to Chinese Technological Ambitions
00:32 Guest Introduction: Adam Segal
01:19 The Evolution of Chinese Cyber Capabilities
11:00 Historical Context of Chinese Technological Control
15:26 Global Cyber Power Dynamics
31:24 National Cyber Capabilities and Strategies
39:21 Private Sector's Role in Cybersecurity
42:19 Non-State Actors in Cyberspace
45:49 International Cyber Alliances
48:23 Economic Cyber Espionage
49:37 Public-Private Cooperation in Cybersecurity
57:58 U.S. International Cyber Policy
01:06:40 U.S.-India Cyber Cooperation
01:10:34 Conclusion and Recommendations
Book Links:
Anirudh Suri:
The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri - https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My
Adam Segal
The Hacked World Order: https://amzn.in/d/ewMaEUM
Advantage: How American Innovation Can Overcome the Asian Challenge: https://amzn.in/d/1xvS8je
Digital Dragon: https://amzn.in/d/8ll79kU
Follow Anirudh here:
X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuri
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suri
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.in
Website: www.anirudhsuri.com
Book and Podcast: www.greattechgame.com
#GeopoliticsOfTechnology #Cybersecurity #USChinaTechCompetition #DigitalColdWar #CyberWarfare #RansomwareThreat #NationalSecurity #TechInnovation #ChineseTech #DigitalPolicy #StateDepartment #CyberEspionage #CriticalInfrastructure #DigitalSolidarity #PublicPrivatePartnerships #TechTalent #InternationalCyberPolicy #DigitalEcosystems #CyberAlliances #EmergingTech