Americans may be more politically divided than ever disagreeing not only politically but also on what should be taught in schools to what constitutes free speech to book bans. But one place where Americans regardless of political affiliation don’t seem to diverge, however, is football, especially the Super Bowl.

Chuck talks with Samuel G. Freedman, journalism professor at Columbia University and the author “Breaking the Line: The season in Black college football that transformed the sport and changed the course of civil rights.” He recently wrote a piece for the Atlantic in which he reviews a new memoir from former Giants Coach Tom Coughlin.