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The World Cup is over. The golden ball has been lifted. And now comes the question: What do you do when the thing you loved so much simply ends?
In this episode
The final match has been played. Spain won. Beauty won. And three depth psychologists sit together one last time to process something that every soccer fan, every creative person, and every human being who has ever given themselves fully to something knows.
The morning after.
Not the loss. The ending. The particular emptiness that arrives when something wonderful is over and the spirit that animated it has moved on to find a new home.
What you will hear:
Practical takeaways:
The question we leave you with:
Think of something that ended — a project, a season, a chapter of your life. What did you do with the space it left behind, and what would it mean to honor that ending rather than rush past it?
Share your answer with us at [email protected]. We read every one.
A note from the hosts
This is the final episode of The Golden Ball FM World Cup 2026 series. Thank you for listening, for sharing your answers, and for playing with us.
For the love of the game.
About the hosts
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist in New York City, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, depth psychology teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
The Golden Ball, where depth psychology and the beautiful game help us play life better.
When Winning Matters: Playing to Win vs Playing Not to Lose
There are moments in life when everything is on the line. What happens in your body, your mind, and your soul in that moment? And how do you find lightness when the weight of it all presses down?
In this episode
The World Cup has reached its final stages. Semi-finals. Finals. Moments that will be written into history books. Moments that will define careers, countries, and dreams.
And yet the players who perform best in these moments are often the ones who find a way to make it feel like just another game.
Three depth psychologists explore what it really means to show up when winning matters. Not just as a performance challenge, but as a psychological and even spiritual one.
What you will hear:
The language of matter, density, and pressure. John opens with a linguistic observation that anchors the whole conversation. When winning matters, matter accumulates. The body gets heavy. The legs slow down. The mind closes in on simple solutions. Creativity disappears. And the path back to lightness is both physical and psychological.
Mbappé before the penalty. Akke-Jeanne describes watching his body get tighter and tighter as the referee delayed the moment. The relationship between relaxation and success is not just psychological. It is visible in real time if you know what to look for.
What you can see in the body before a penalty is taken. Shoulders dropping. A surrender to the moment. The difference between someone talking themselves into something and someone who has simply arrived. One scores more often than the other.
Play to win versus play not to lose. Machiel brings one of the most important distinctions in the episode. Playing not to lose creates rigidity. It puts a knife to the throat of performance. Playing to win requires accepting the possibility of losing. That paradox is at the heart of peak performance.
The threshold moment. These are not just pressure moments. They are initiation moments. Whatever team wins the World Cup final will carry that moment into history. Whatever person walks into a job interview and performs at their best will cross a threshold into a new version of themselves. The stakes are real. And that reality is part of what makes them so difficult.
The monsters on the path. Machiel introduces one of the most evocative images of the series. When winning matters, monsters show up. Fears. Inner voices. The weight of expectation. The narrative of what this result will mean for your career, your identity, your future. The technique is not to fight the monsters. It is to keep walking toward the temple.
The role of joy. Ronaldinho versus Messi. Maradona versus the more serious expressions of greatness. Does joy make you perform better? And what does it mean that some of the greatest players of all time seem to carry the game as a burden rather than a gift?
The open heart as medicine. Machiel's phrase that closes the episode beautifully. When matter accumulates and the monsters crowd in, the antidote is not willpower or technique alone. It is an open heart. The capacity to remain connected to why this matters in the first place.
Practical takeaways:
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, Jungian psychology teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball, where depth psychology and the beautiful game help us play life better.
When the dream ends
The World Cup is in the knockout phase. Some dreams have ended. Some players have gone home. And somewhere in a hotel room, someone is replaying the moment over and over, trying to change an outcome that cannot be changed.
This episode is about what happens after the loss. Not the analysis. Not the blame. The inner journey that begins when something you cared about deeply does not go the way you needed it to.
What you will hear:
One thought that stays:
You are no longer a person who plays at the World Cup. You are a person sitting on the couch watching the World Cup.
That sentence from the opening of this episode captures something essential. Big losses do not just hurt. They change who we are. And navigating that change, rather than pretending it did not happen, is where psychological work begins.
Practical takeaways:
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a Jungian coach, teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. Her book on heartbreak, De Psychologie van een Gebroken Hart, is available in Dutch. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball - where depth psychology and the beautiful game help us play life better.
Dealing with criticism
How do you deal with criticism when the world is watching?
In this episode
Imagine sitting in a beautiful theater, dressed up, surrounded by colleagues and peers. A moment you had been looking forward to.
And then, in front of everyone, someone whose opinion matters is asked what they think of you.
Their answer: I don't really see it.
That moment opens a conversation about one of the most universal human experiences. Being evaluated. Being found wanting. And what we do with that.
What you will hear:
One story that stays:
A few days after the documentary premiere, a teammate came to the player in the locker room and simply acknowledged what had happened. That small act of witnessing broke the isolation. It brought the player back into the team. It reminded him that what had happened was real, that he was not alone in it, and that he still belonged.
Sometimes the most powerful response to criticism is not the right answer. It is the right witness.
Practical takeaways:
The question we leave you with:
Think of a piece of criticism you received that stayed with you. What did the outer critic actually say, and what did your inner critic make of it?
Share your answer with us at [email protected]. We read every one.
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, Jungian psychology teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball - where depth psychology and the beautiful game help you play the game of life better.
Episode Creativity
John O'Brien shares a moment of the World Cup. In the second half, something happened on the pitch that stopped the crowd mid-breath. A moment of creativity. A pass nobody saw coming. A decision made in a fraction of a second that could not have been planned.
That moment opens a conversation that goes somewhere deeper than tactics or technique. Into what creativity actually is, where it comes from, and how we can invite more of it into our lives.
What you will hear:
One thought that stays:
Rick Rubin defines creativity as an attitude toward life. Not a single moment of inspiration. A way of relating to everything, with fluidity, curiosity, and a willingness to experiment without knowing the outcome. That is available to all of us. Not just artists and athletes. Anyone willing to follow an impulse before they know where it leads.
Practical takeaways:
The question we leave you with:
Where in your life are you so focused on the outcome that you have forgotten to enjoy the process, and what would change if you followed the impulse instead?
Share your answer with us at [email protected]
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, Jungian teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball, where depth psychology and soccer help us play life better.
Identity: Who are you when the shirt comes off?
Who are you, really? And what happens when the story you tell about yourself stops working?
In this episode
Identity is one of the most powerful forces in sport and in life. It shapes how we perform, how we belong, and how we respond when things do not go according to plan. But identity can also become a trap. A rigid story that keeps us safe while quietly cutting us off from the very things that would make us come alive.
In this episode, three depth psychologists explore identity from every angle. Personal identity, athletic identity, collective identity, and the shadow. The parts of ourselves we leave out of the story we tell the world.
The conversation moves between the therapy room and the pitch. Between Ronaldo's relentless claim to greatness and the Dutch fan who puts on an orange shirt and suddenly belongs to something larger than themselves.
What you will hear:
A thought that stays:
Identity is like a shirt. The French wear blue. The Dutch wear orange. But never mistake the shirt for the person wearing it. That confusion is where identity politics begins, where hooliganism is born, where violence enters. The shirt is a way of belonging. It is not who you are.
Practical takeaways:
The question we leave you with:
What identity have you outgrown, and what might be waiting on the other side of letting it go?
Share your answer with us at [email protected] We read every one.
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball, where depth psychology and the beautiful game help us play life better.
What does it really mean to believe in yourself? And when does that belief become the very thing that gets in your way?
In this episode
Self-belief is one of the most talked about qualities in sport and in life. But what actually is it? And why does telling someone to "just believe in yourself" so often miss the mark entirely?
In this episode, three depth psychologists, one of them a former World Cup soccer player, sit down to explore one of the most nuanced psychological balancing acts a person can face. Not just how to build self-belief, but how to hold it lightly enough that it stays alive, honest, and genuinely useful.
The conversation moves between the soccer field and the inner life, between mythology and the nervous system, between Messi sensing destiny in the 2022 World Cup final and a young drummer who discovered that loving something and being talented at it are not always the same thing.
What you will hear:
One insight that stays:
Self-belief is not a destination. It is not something you achieve once and then check off. It is an art. And like all art, it needs practice, joy, and a willingness to keep showing up without a guarantee of how it will turn out.
The question we leave you with:
Think of something that truly matters to you. What would you do differently if you genuinely believed you could?
We would love to hear your answer. Share it with us at [email protected]
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with sand, symbols, and imagination to help athletes and others perform and understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball — where depth psychology and soccer help us play life better.
What are you really chasing? The literal gold the world can see, or, the gold only you can feel?
In this episode
With the World Cup on the horizon, three depth psychologists and one of them a former World Cup player sit down to explore one of the most universal human questions: what does it mean to strive for gold? On the pitch, and also in your career, your relationships, and your daily life.
John O'Brien, who played in two World Cups, opens by saying that striving for gold requires, paradoxically, a kind of non-striving. A letting go. A trust in yourself that no amount of external pressure can replace.
From there the conversation moves into territory that goes far beyond sport.
What you will hear:
The difference between external gold and internal gold. And why confusing the two can quietly undermine everything you are working toward.
The myth of King Midas: what happens when the hunger for status and recognition becomes the thing that poisons the very life you were trying to build.
The story of a high-potential athlete turned finance professional who kept getting promoted, until one day the promotion arrived and the fulfilment did not.
Why fear is not the enemy of peak performance. It is the entrance ticket. And what a healthy relationship with fear actually looks like on the pitch and off it.
The three strategies we all use to avoid the vulnerability that gold requires: avoidance, control, and compliance. How to spot them in players, coaches, journalists, and yourself.
How to watch the World Cup differently and learn about your own psychology.
And finally, where each of the three hosts finds their own gold. In creativity, in presence, in the moments when time disappears.
The image that stays:
A princess plays with her golden ball at the edge of a well. It slips. It falls into the water. A frog appears and offers to retrieve it, for a price. The gold was never lost. It was always there. The question is only what you are willing to do to get back in touch with it.
A key insight from this episode:
The gold is already present. It is not something you have to create or earn or prove. The talent, the spontaneous inclination to express yourself, is already in you. The inner work is not about becoming someone different. It is about trusting what is already there enough to let it show.
The question we leave you with: Do you show up for what truly matters to you?
We answered it in this episode. We would love to hear yours. Share your answer with us: [email protected]
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with symbol, sand, and imagination to help athletes understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, teacher, and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball — where depth psychology and the beautiful game help us play life better.
When we watch soccer, something happens that has nothing to do with the game and everything to do with it.
In this introduction, three depth psychologists and one of them a former world cup soccer player, explain why this podcast exists, and answer the question that will run through every episode to come: when did you fall in love with the game? And what were you really falling in love with?
What this podcast is about
The Golden Ball works on three levels. First, the game itself: what psychological attitudes make you a better player? How do you handle pressure, lead, lose, and recover? Then the same questions turn toward daily life. Everything that happens on the pitch also happens at home, at work, and in the quiet moments in between. And then through a depth psychological lens, the big questions emerge. What is winning really about? What are the values that secretly drive the way we play the game of life? And what does it mean to step onto any field, in sport or in life, with full courage and full presence?
This podcast is an invitation to look at the game differently. Not just as a sport, but as a metaphor for life.
In this episode
Three personal stories about falling in love with the game. Each one different, each one pointing at the same thing underneath.
Akke-Jeanne remembers standing outside the Olympic Stadium in Amsterdam in 1994, AJAX about to face AC Milan, the reigning European champions. The atmosphere was electric before a ball had even been kicked. What she took away that night had nothing to do with the result. It had everything to do with a question she still carries: when I face something that feels much larger than me, do I step in with courage? or do I shrink?
John describes the feeling that starts before the game even begins. Looking out at a big open green field, white lines, colorful uniforms, and feeling his skin begin to tingle. For him, soccer has always been a language, one that travels across cultures, backgrounds, and borders. A language of the feet.
Machiel traces his love back to the streets of the Netherlands, to his father's stories about heroic players, to the dreams in which Johan Cruyff still appears. Two great loves, depth psychology and soccer, that have always, for him, been the same thing in different clothes.
Why they said yes to creating this podcast
Sometimes an idea arrives that feels less like a decision and more like an invitation. All three said yes to play, to explore, to sit together with two things they love and see what they have to teach each other and anyone willing to listen.
The question we leave you with: When did you fall in love with the game? And what were you really falling in love with? We answered it. We would love to hear yours. Share your answer with us at [email protected]
About the hosts
John O'Brien is a former World Cup soccer player and sports psychologist who combines performance tools with symbol, sand, and imagination to help athletes understand themselves more deeply. johnobriensportpsych.com
Machiel Klerk is a psychotherapist, founder of Jung Platform, and lifelong lover of the game. machielklerk.com
Akke-Jeanne Klerk is a personal development coach, psychology teacher and co-founder of Jung Platform. akkejeanneklerk.com
The Golden Ball is a podcast sponsored by Jung Platform; the largest global platform for depth psychology. Jung Platform offers courses and certificate programs. Website: jungplatform.com
The Golden Ball, where depth psychology and the beautiful game help us play life better.
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