Some seasons of life feel strange.

You’re doing the work. Showing up. Trying to stay grounded. Trying to trust yourself.

And yet… things can still feel unclear, slow-moving, or just slightly out of reach.

In this episode, Lisa and Emily explore:

✨ what it means to stay open without forcing

✨ why “doing more” isn’t always the answer

✨ the tension between momentum and patience

✨ and how to recognize growth that’s happening beneath the surface before you can fully see it

This conversation feels especially timely for anyone navigating transition, energetic shifts, creative uncertainty, burnout from hustle culture, or the feeling that something is changing… even if you can’t quite name it yet.

There’s wisdom here about timing, trust, receptivity, and learning how to move without gripping so tightly to outcomes.

And of course… there are a few unexpected tangents, hidden references, and classic Conscious Collaboration moments along the way.

🎙️ Episode 212: The Grass Doesn’t Plan to Grow

Talk to you in 5.

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