To celebrate the podcast's 10th anniversary, Tom and Svein speak at long last to Pete and Alan Wishart, the respective keyboardist and bassist in the very first incarnation of Big Country. This is an incredibly informative conversation on the earliest begninnings of the band, including the ill-fated Alice Cooper tour and the subsequent difficult decision by Stuart to revamp the lineup. Some rare live clips are played from BC's first-ever show, as well as some rare interview clips with Pete and Stuart from 1981. Joining Tom and Svein are the mighty JfnG and Stuart "Ming the Merciless" Menzies. Enjoy this incredible deep dive into this rare and formative period of the band's history.