Since 20 episodes tends to be a landmark for startup podcasts, we decided to try and tackle one of the biggest issues of the last 2,000 years, religion, to mark this occasion. Nick (a Christian) and Ian (an atheist) attempt to have a civil conversation about this touchy topic, but prove how hard of a topic this can be for polar opposite sides to discuss. Additionally, we are using different music for the into and outro for this episode. The intro song is “God” by John Lennon and the outro music is “Brother” by Needtobreathe. These songs represent the two differing opinions on this topic.