Not many people have spent 3.5 years in the back country: where many modern conveniences exist, yet our guest today, Karl Eby, has immersed in the great outdoors as a way to help reach people that look for a different encounter: usually looking for God. Karl is an instructor for COR Expeditions: an outreach program to bring people closer to our Lord in the outdoors. In this episode, we not only talk about his experience but we also dive into a range of topics from the fragility of society, the principle of subsidiarity, and the philosophy of labor. We hope you enjoy this conversation: we hope to have Karl back on the show soon!