The Greg Laurie Show

What would you have done during the Holocaust? Rev. Jonnie Moore says that's no longer a hypothetical question.

In this conversation, Pastor Greg Laurie sits down with Johnnie Moore—advisor to presidents, humanitarian, and one of the most connected evangelical voices on the global stage—three years after the October 7th attacks on Israel.

We cover:
• What actually happened on October 7th (and why the world moved on too quickly)
• Hamas, Iran, and the reshaping of the Middle East
• The surge of antisemitism on both the left and the right
• Feeding Gaza while Hamas stole aid
• Sharing the gospel with Muslims and Jews
• Why Silicon Valley is quietly calling pastors about AI
• What President Trump is really like behind closed doors
• The best piece of advice Johnnie ever received — from a rabbi

Johnnie grew up moving 20 times before age 12, ended up at Liberty under Jerry Falwell Sr., and now works at the intersection of faith, foreign policy, and emerging technology. His story — and his warnings — are worth your time.

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Timetamps

00:30 Meet Johnnie Moore
02:03 Growing up in the Deep South after his parents' divorce
03:00 The balloon-animal mentor who taught him business
04:34 Finding faith as his parents' marriage fell apart
06:40 Moving to Lynchburg and landing at Liberty
08:20 How Jerry Falwell Sr. became a father figure
11:54 Three years after October 7th
16:46 What Hamas and Iran were really trying to do
21:14 The genocide accusation and feeding Gaza
26:00 Advising Trump on Iran and the nuclear red line
30:51 Sharing the gospel with Muslims and Jews
41:03 Leading a Jewish friend to Christ on FaceTime
44:10 Why evangelicals must stand against antisemitism now
48:26 Bots, bot farms, and the global information war
53:49 Why so many pastors are afraid to speak up
56:15 Is AI a blessing or a threat?
01:01:23 Why Silicon Valley is calling pastors
01:06:19 AI as therapy and the church's human advantage
01:07:30 Advice to a younger Johnnie: take more risks
01:11:16 What would surprise you about President Trump
01:16:00 The best advice he ever got, from a rabbi

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Cartoonist Butch Hartman—creator of Nickelodeon's *The Fairly OddParents*—sits down with Greg to talk about a career built on drawing, storytelling, and eventually surrender. Butch traces his path from a chaotic Michigan childhood, where cartoons were a refuge, to CalArts, Hanna-Barbera, and the day Ted Turner told the staff they could pitch their own ideas. He explains why limited animation gave Fred Flintstone a five o'clock shadow, why confidence with ink matters more than talent, and why he left Nickelodeon in 2018 to build a studio around *The Garden*—a Christian series he self-funded when no one else would.

Along the way: how tithing broke a stronghold, why he and his wife now pastor a church that started under a tree, and his conviction that if God gives the vision, He gives the provision.

Timestamps

00:00 Prototype plush and the $8,000 Goofy maquette story
01:22 Meeting a fellow artist and Fairly OddParents' 18-year run
03:07 CalArts, Hanna-Barbera and the day Cartoon Network launched
05:16 How limited animation made TV cartoons possible
06:14 Discovering he could draw by tracing Peter Pan on a wall
07:41 Greg's chaotic childhood and the animator with the "magic pencil"
09:04 Butch's Michigan upbringing and retreating into cartoons
10:57 TV dads as father figures — Hugh Beaumont and Mike Brady
12:03 Yellow Dog, brush pens and Mad Magazine influences
16:17 Why caricaturing women is a bad idea
17:34 Drawing fast at Magic Mountain and switching to digital
19:13 First jobs: American Tail, Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls
19:55 Seizing the pitch opportunity that changed everything
21:05 Writing letters to Charles Schulz as a kid
22:38 Getting saved at 35 at Crenshaw Christian Center
24:47 Starting Church in the Park during COVID
25:13 Preaching Esther on a whiteboard
26:24 The Garden: making a Christian cartoon nobody else would
28:52 Giving vs. the culture of self-worship
30:26 Why Nickelodeon won't touch overtly Christian content
31:50 Reaching unexpected people in unexpected places
34:42 Where Butch stands on AI in animation
37:27 Voice acting and playing Dr. Rip Studwell
38:49 Favorite movies and the greatest animated film ever
42:35 Human creativity, arrogance and the last days
44:47 Advice to a younger Butch: don't be afraid
46:13 Go-to Scriptures for anxiety and trust
47:01 An invitation to make Jesus Lord of your life
50:15 If God gives the vision, He'll give the provision
51:32 How Butch wants to be remembered

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What does it mean to spiral—and is it actually possible to find blessings amid devastating loss? On today’s episode of The Greg Laurie Show, Pastor Greg welcomes author and pastor Levi Lusko for an honest—and often humorous—conversation about grief, calling, leadership, and the surprising ways faith can sustain us through the worst life has to offer. 

Together, Pastor Greg and Levi trace their family’s intertwined journeys through ministry, loss, and redemption. From the nostalgia of swapping cassette tapes and youth ministry war stories to the raw pain of losing a child or parent, the two open up about suffering, resilience, and the pursuit of God’s purpose in real life. This conversation is both a balm for broken hearts and an encouragement for leaders, parents, or anyone wondering how to move forward when life gets overwhelming.

Find Levi’s book on loss, Through the Eyes of a Lion, here: https://levilusko.com/through-the-eyes-of-a-lion. 

Check out Blessed are the Spiraling here: https://www.blessedarethespiraling.com/. 

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How a Missed Mentorship Changed Everything
02:33 First Meeting: From Fan to Friend
04:33 Youth Ministry: “If You Can Preach to Teens…”
06:38 Choosing Montana Over Harvest: Defining Your Calling
08:05 Walking Through Grief: The Loss of Christopher
12:05 “Seeing Through the Eyes of a Lion”: Lenya’s Legacy
14:09 Navigating Grief: Guilt, Healing, and Connection
16:33 Losing His Dad: “A Different Kind of Grief”
17:51 Writing About Pain: Impact Beyond Tragedy
18:25 “Success Builds Walls, Failure Builds Bridges”
21:44 How Personal Loss Changed Pastoral Ministry
22:09 Honoring Lost Loved Ones by Healing
23:50 Brokenness, Empathy, and Leadership Growth
24:20 Separating Grief: The Laundry Pile Analogy
26:14 Hope in Heartbreak: “They’re Not Lost If You Know Where They Are”
29:09 Parenting and Calling: Raising Kids in Ministry
31:09 Marriage & Hydration: Keeping Relationships Alive
32:27 “Intimacy Is Into-Me-You-See”: Wisdom for Newlyweds
35:20 Message Prep: Connections, Curiosity & “Move It or Lose It”
37:45 Preaching & Writing: The Unique Joys of Both
39:46 Writing Habits: Seinfeld, Deadlines, and Staying Creative
43:06 Staying Faithful: Why I Chose My Church Over Big Offers
45:23 New Book: “Blessed Are the Spiraling” and Midlife Crisis
47:38 From Fire to Significance: Shifting Life’s Focus
51:25 Movement Conference: Investing in the Next Generation
53:18 Learning to Champion Others, Not Compete
55:12 What’s Changed in Reaching Young People
58:16 “Make Your Bed”: Keystone Habits & Authentic Leadership
59:45 The Power of Challenge, Not Coddling
01:00:19 Last Meal? In-N-Out & Good Coffee
01:01:11 Movies, Heroes, and Becoming Yoda
01:02:19 Pulpit Bloopers: Unusual Booty and Other Slip-Ups
01:05:08 Hope, Legacy, and What’s Next

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Frank Turek was near Charlie Kirk on the day he was killed at UVU. A year later, he sits down with Greg to talk about grief, evil, and what Charlie's legacy means for the church now.

From there, the conversation opens up into Frank's new book, The War on Reality (co-written with Phoenix Hayes, with a foreword by Erika Kirk), and the cultural questions Frank is hearing most on college campuses today.

In this episode:
- The night Charlie was killed and what Erika said to Frank at the hospital
- Why the top three objections to Christianity today are all about morality
- The transgender conversation, detransitioners, and what to actually say to your kid
- Why socialism keeps making a comeback on campus
- The rise of antisemitism after October 7th
- AI, hallucinations, and the "Madagascar" test that failed 33 out of 35 students
- Plus: Beatles trivia, desert island songs, and Greg's awkward encounter with Ringo

Learn more about Frank's book at thewaronreality.com.

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Timestamps:

00:41 Remembering Charlie Kirk one year later
02:26 Why it's not PTSD — it's normal grief
04:11 Evil, eternity, and the ripple effect
07:16 Erika Kirk: "Don't let his legacy die"
09:53 How campus objections shifted to morality
14:10 Is the church feeding the war on reality?
18:34 The trans social contagion and detransitioners
22:03 Questions to ask a child who says "I'm trans"
25:38 Why socialism keeps making a comeback
29:13 Ten reasons Christians must engage politically
32:51 The hidden dangers of AI hallucinations
37:20 The spiritual roots of rising antisemitism
44:09 Go-to verses for stress and suffering
49:42 One last sermon: glorified or horrified
53:35 Beatles rabbit hole and witnessing to Ringo
59:10 Why he wrote The War on Reality

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Today marks the 25th anniversary of 9/11, the day thousands of Americans lost their lives at the hands of Islamic terrorists. Pastor Greg Laurie reflects on this tragic moment in our history, and how a unique spiritual moment was born from it, sharing from his personal experience at the World Trade Center just two days after the attack.

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"This is a tribute I wrote and filmed to remember the impactful life of Charlie Kirk on the first anniversary of his tragic death. Charlie, a follower of Jesus, lived a life worth remembering—and emulating. His courage, conviction, and commitment to sharing his faith made a lasting impact on countless lives." —Pastor Greg Laurie

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Jeremy Boreing on why revolution isn't the answer — and what actually is.

In Part 2 of our conversation, Jeremy makes the case that America doesn't need to tear down the Constitution. It needs to become the kind of people the Constitution was written for. We talk about why every godless revolution in history has ended in blood, why the American founding was different, and why the revolution we actually need is a revolution of the heart.

Then things get personal. We swap favorite films (Braveheart, Ben-Hur, Tombstone, The Godfather), argue about the Beatles, trade Eagles memories from the Sphere, and land on how art — even a small movie with a jazz score — can travel further than you'd ever guess.

We close with the story behind the bent key Jeremy has worn around his neck for 31 years. It's worth staying for.

Timestamps

00:33 Who should run in 2028?
01:51 Conservatism didn't fail — we did
03:33 America's revolution vs. all the others
05:46 Why revolution today would destroy us
07:31 The real revolution is in the heart
08:12 Hardest and easiest people to interview
11:02 Top five favorite films
13:31 Dinner with Churchill, Paul, and Henley
15:33 The hidden hero behind country rock
17:03 Death row meals and Taco Villa
19:12 Desert island songs and the Beatles
23:15 How Ben-Hur led Greg to Christ
26:15 Artists as co-creators with God
27:12 The Wayne Shorter jazz score story
31:01 The story behind the bent key

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Jeremy Boreing on why conservatives keep missing the future — and what he's building next after The Daily Wire.

In this conversation, Greg Laurie sits down with Jeremy Boreing, co-founder of The Daily Wire, to talk about creativity, failure, faith, and the next generational shift already underway.

What you'll hear:
- The night reading Galatians in a Pizza Hut parking lot changed everything
- Why Jeremy told Michael Knowles to hold his dreams loosely
- The billion-dollar lesson from Jeremy's exit from The Daily Wire
- How conservatives keep falling into a "fail, complain, fundraise" cycle
- Why AI is the next social media moment — and what happens if Christians sit it out
- The failure of Gen X and Boomers to hand the next generation better choices
- How to answer nihilism, antisemitism, and despair with actual creation

Jeremy makes the case that dominion isn't about reacting to culture — it's about building something worth choosing. Greg presses him on what that looks like for the gospel in an AI age.

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Timestamps

00:31 Meet Jeremy Boreing
02:28 From West Texas to failing in LA
03:22 The billion-dollar mistake at Daily Wire
05:42 Spotting Ben Shapiro's talent early
07:49 The Michael Knowles breakfast: holding dreams loosely
10:06 Discovering he was a creator, not an actor
14:48 Reading Galatians in a Pizza Hut parking lot
19:29 Truth Revolt, getting fired by David Horowitz
25:30 The generational insight behind Daily Wire
28:57 Why conservatives keep missing the next wave
33:23 AI as the new mission field
40:55 Nihilism, antisemitism, and a failed generation
45:08 What Gen X and Boomers owe the next generation

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From gang life at age 11 to reaching millions on YouTube — Ruslan KD sits down with Greg Laurie to talk about the long road home.

Born in Azerbaijan, ethnically Armenian, and raised by a single mom in San Diego, Ruslan's story starts with a botched break-in, a cop next door, and a Black Baptist church that told an 11-year-old kid God would use him one day. They were right.

In this conversation:

• How Ruslan finally surrendered to Christ at a Miles McPherson crusade
  • The 3 pillars of biblical manhood: priest, provider, protector
  • Why Gen Z is the most Jesus-curious generation — and what they need from boomers
  • The difference between selfish ambition and godly ambition (from his new book)
  • Why every pastor should have a podcast
  • Financial literacy, communism vs. capitalism, and what the church keeps missing
  • The verse Ruslan returns to when life gets loud

Whether you're a young man trying to figure out what a godly life looks like, or an older believer wondering how to reach the next generation — this one's worth your time.

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Timestamps

00:22 Meet Ruslan: rapper, apologist, YouTuber
01:37 From Baku to a Vegas gang at age 11
04:24 Community service leads him to church
07:10 Wrestling with Jesus vs. Jehovah's Witnesses
09:54 Why the gospel finally clicked
14:14 What "godly ambition" actually means
18:33 The three pillars: priest, provider, protector
26:11 Communism, socialism, and taxing the rich
29:26 Gen Z: the walking paradox
36:39 Why open your home to a stranger
39:41 What's fueling the church growth boom
50:17 Teaching young people how to think
54:00 If you had 2 minutes with a million Gen Z kids

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We’re revisiting one of our favorite conversations from The Greg Laurie Show, featuring acclaimed actor Dennis Quaid and his powerful story of faith, fame, addiction, and personal transformation. What drives a Hollywood legend to trade red carpets and fame for a deeper search for meaning?

From iconic roles in films like "The Big Easy" and "I Can Only Imagine," Dennis Quaid opens up about his unconventional spiritual journey—from his Baptist upbringing to exploring Eastern mysticism in India, and ultimately, a life-changing encounter with Jesus. The episode dives deep into the heart of Quaid’s story, revealing the turbulence behind the spotlight, his battles with addiction, and what finally brought him home to a living, personal faith.

Highlights include:

• A behind-the-scenes look at the making of faith-based films in Hollywood, including surprising moments from "I Can Only Imagine" and "Soul Surfer" that shaped the genre and broke box-office expectations.
• Thoughtful reflections on the role of shame, forgiveness, and the persistent hope found in Christ—no matter your past.
• Honest advice for anyone chasing success, struggling with temptation, or searching for something real in a world of quick fixes.

Woven throughout, Pastor Greg Laurie and Dennis Quaid share candid moments about life, lessons from legendary figures like Johnny Cash and Steve McQueen, and powerful truths for anyone standing at a crossroads.

If you’ve ever wondered whether God can bring beauty from ashes—or if you’re just curious what happens when a Hollywood star dares to get real about faith—you won’t want to miss this conversation.

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CHAPTERS:

00:07 Recording Johnny Cash at Home
01:12 Dennis Quaid Learns Guitar from Johnny Cash
03:36 Dylan’s Influence on The Beatles & Rock Legends
05:44 Movie Roles Dennis Quaid Regrets Turning Down
08:03 Not Getting Typecast: Dennis Quaid’s Career Philosophy
09:56 Jesus, Shame, and Freedom: Spiritual Reflections
11:30 Preparing for Doc Holliday: Physical & Emotional Toll
13:53 Ronald Reagan: Insecurity & Triumphs
16:17 Reagan’s Strategy with Gorbachev Explained
17:10 Behind the Scenes with President Trump
19:15 Staying at the White House: Clinton & Instant Coffee
20:43 The Political Divide: Common Sense vs. Extremes
22:03 Dennis Quaid’s "Seeker" Years & Spiritual Journey
26:55 The Power of Jesus’ Red Letters
28:22 "I Can Only Imagine": Shifting Faith Film Standards
31:54 Standing Up for Faith in “Soul Surfer”
33:31 Hollywood’s Spiritual Revolution

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