<p>Writer George Saunders on his fascination with Abraham Lincoln, and Lincoln's grief for his lost son, Willie</p>

Writer George Saunders on his fascination with Abraham Lincoln, and Lincoln's grief for his lost son, Willie

The grief which haunted President Lincoln

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Thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, celebrities, survivors and more from the daily ABC radio show and podcast 'Conversations' with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski from the years 2015-2017.To binge even more great episodes of the ‘Conversations podcast’ with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowskigo the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

Thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, celebrities, survivors and more from the daily ABC radio show and podcast 'Conversations' with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski from the years 2015-2017.To&nbsp;binge&nbsp;even more&nbsp;great episodes&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;‘Conversations podcast’&nbsp;with&nbsp;Richard Fidler&nbsp;and&nbsp;Sarah Kanowskigo the&nbsp;ABC listen app&nbsp;(Australia) or wherever you get your&nbsp;podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of&nbsp;the best&nbsp;thought-provoking interviews&nbsp;with&nbsp;authors,&nbsp;writers,&nbsp;artists,&nbsp;politicians,&nbsp;psychologists,&nbsp;musicians, and&nbsp;celebrities.

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The grief which haunted President Lincoln

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